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#16737 07/29/2004 5:39 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 84 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 84 | Hey guys I have a question...I hAVE A CHANCE TO GET A 230 (6) TO PUT IN MY TRUCK 54 CHEVY. I have installed a 250already and this engine has the water pump bolt hole(s) stripped out and the manifold bolt hole(s) stripped. the 230 is coming out of a chevellle who got a v8 upgrade-(not really an upgrade-should've left in the 6!) anyway, what is the major difference in the two engines? is it worth the effort to take the step backwards? Any suggestions or hop up comments would be appreciated- the price is great and it comes with power steering (maybe ac) thank you everyone! | | |
#16738 07/29/2004 6:14 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 734 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 734 | Hmmm, have you thought about re-tapping/re-threading the bolt holes? If it's a good running 250, I don't see anything advantagious about putting a 230 in. A 292 yeah, I'd do the swap. As far as differences, don't think there's much aside from the obvious. I was buying parts for a 230 for quite some time and then found out I had a 292! If you're already set on doing a swap, I'd try to find a 292 and make it worth your while. | | |
#16739 07/29/2004 7:53 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | As a direct answer to your question, it is a direct swap. Same block and attach points.
On the other hand, I would keep the 250 and use Keen-serts to fix the threads that are stripped. Drill a hole the right size and drive in the insert that gives you threads. It's that easy.
The 250 is a better engine than the 230. Better power, and the 230 had a problem with burning holes in factory pistons.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#16740 07/29/2004 8:36 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,838 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,838 | Finding a 230 block that isn't cracked is like looking for a chicken with lips! They had the nasty habit of cracking the block between the valve lifter bores, where it's just about impossible to get a good repair done. Put some Heli-Coil thread inserts in your block, and press on. it's a lot less expensive than a swap, and the 250 is a much better rngine. Jerry
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#16741 07/30/2004 2:29 PM | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 258 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 258 | If you've still got the stock stump-puller rear-end, I suggest keeping the 250...
I have one in my '72 C-10, and it is a fine engine...
These are all (230/250/292) seven-main bearing engines, and the bottom-ends are nearly bullet-proof.
However, the 292 is a LONG-stroker, and if your truck is spending a lot of time on the highway with that 4.11 rear, the 292 won't like that too much...(neither will your wallet at the gas pump).
I 'd vote for the thread repair if the rest of your engine is in decent shape...
If the 230 is in good condition, it might be a good runner, but it'd be worth tearing down for inspection before dropping it in...
So now I'll ask the question: what's involved in putting a 230/250 into an AD chassis (let's say '54 - '55 first) ?
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#16742 07/30/2004 7:05 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 84 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 84 | thank you all for the wondeful replys... I guess I'l be sticking with the 250 for now. I will look up the keen-serts and heli-coil and try one of them out. As for the second part of the ? To put a 250 in a ad truck (54) which is what I have attempted to do is alot of work. (honestly) I bought new engine mounts from Tom over at Langdon's Stovebolt, cast iron headers, ball milled alum. valve and side covers, aluminum water heated manifold from cliffords,Holley carb from Moon eyes, new lokar shifter, new gas pedal,new boooster for 4 wheel disc brake, disc brake rear 2:37 gears, 2004r tranny, disc brake kit (frt)Painless 21 cir wiring kit- new tranny mount tubular.new kick down cable,throttle cable,brake lines,fuel lines,under bed gas tank,electric fuel pump-red(holley), tranny cooler and the list goes on just like putting a V8. I must say you can do things different, IE...drum rear brakes, keep it almost stock,But what fun would that be- I also added duel exhaust with smittys and flame throwers. I plan to add a cpp drop axle and a 4 link rear/suicide doors and pop locks. In the process now of suicide job will put up some pics of the progress- hopefully by christmas my baby will be almost done- but when are they ever truely done! Thanks for the support guys and ladies- remember keep the wife happy and she will take good care of you! By the way I'm married to my Truck! Thanks again | | |
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