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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 | Of course, another option is to convert to a wood or coal burning system: Producer Gas for Motor Vehicles Of course, if you go that route, you may need to convert your teardrop trailer to a coal car 
Jeff Nelson
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,586 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,586 | Jeff, enthanol is a poor motor fuel,takes about 2.4 times more than gasoline to get the energy, and makes an engine difficult to start in cold weather.Methanol has more BTU's than ethanol,but same draw backs, and ya can't drink methanol | | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 476 Moderator | | Moderator Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 476 | Hey Jeff, I shudder to think what the EPA would want to see for smog control on a coal or wood burning system!
Don't lose your head to save a minute,
You need your head, your brains are in it.
Burma-Shave (1947)
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | makes my conversion seem lke a better deal
Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 332 Big Bolt Shop Curmudgeon | | Big Bolt Shop Curmudgeon Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 332 | Alternative fuels--yes!
If you don't understand why the retail (pump) price of a product changes to meet the increased price of the raw material (crude oil, in the case of gasoline and diesel) read Economics 101.
The economic law is called "Replacement Cost" and it applies to all retailers. It is linked up with unit costs, marginal costs and the cost of the next unit of product available--in addition to supply and demand.
Other economic rules:
Drive less and pay less for fuel.
Use less fuel (drive efficiently by letting the other guy beat you to the next red light).
Sell or push the Hummer!
Drivin' down a 2 lane country road in a stovebolt.....cowboy, it don't get no better than this!
1946 1-1/2 ton Chevy
"Ol Blue", or "THE BIG 'UN"
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | Guess I was wrong, I always thought that it had a little GREED in it also
Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 | Here in Europe Diesel costs a lot the benz costs almost US$70 to fill but in Germany it's well over $100 US$1.32-1.40 per LTR x 4 to get a gallon!
Remember the average real wage in Poland is about $450 per month....you can see the fix these people are in
We do have it real good in the US
Yes there is for sure greed but it's not breakin' our backs yet | | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 176 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 176 | It's jumping fast!!!  $2.49 now for regular....  And "they" are already talking about the possibility of $3.00 per gallon! :mad:
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
- Jesus -
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,586 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,586 | Jim's right, it's not all that bad yet,drive less in your normal boring vehicle, put the "saved" gas in your old truck for fun rides. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | gas is just like other stuff, you have to have it so you also have to pay for it
Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 272 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 272 | Gas is bad every where but I dont feel so bad now
filled up at $1.79 last night at wally world in Dallas Tx
Brad B | | | | | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | Going up fast indeed.......Diesel 2.19 a few days ago, now 2.24-2.30 range in SW FL. I'm at the point where I'm not concerned with it getting cheaper. I just wish it would stop going higher. | | | | | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 124 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 124 | Just a thought, I know gas is high and I dont like it but when I was seventeen I had to work hard for one hour to buy two gallons of gas. How much can you buy now for one hour of hard work?
I like old trucks
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 | It has been posted earlier but we are paying a lot more up here in Canada. The sad thing is there is no competition among dealers. On a corner with 4 gas stations you can watch them all raise their prices to the same amount at the exact time. The government was forced into investigating price fixing but they declared it wasn't happening. Maybe it is because we have "free" medicare. NOT! I wouldn't wish medicare like we have on anyone. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 399 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 399 | Sorry, but I have to say that.
You folks live in a gasoline dumping price country.
Here in Germany we pay betwwen $4,80 and $5 a Gallon! :mad:
It is not the oil price what makes it that expensive it is the 80% tax on gas.
Manny greetings from sunny southern Germany, Frank | | |
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