I've been stewing over this tailgate for years and I'd like to straighten it up and remove the dents. Many people tell me to leave it alone and like the 'patina', but I'm not so sure. It doesn't have to be perfect, just better.
I'm looking for suggestions on how to approach this project. Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
Mine was and still is bad I had a big dent on the top that I could not beat or heat it out so I ended up welding a piece of metal overtop like a second skin .I wish I would have drilled the spot welds out and bent it back to get access to the back ,I seen someone do that on a video and it worked out good .First you would have to straighten the tailgate so it is flat and before drilling the spot welds out your dents may come out by welding some washers so you can use a slide puller to get them out .
Show us pictures of the rest of the truck so we can make better suggestions.
If the rest of the truck is beat up, leave it alone. If the rest of the truck is really nice, by all means bring the tailgate up to the standard of the rest of the truck.
The beat up nature of Ol' Roy in general means the tailgate is staying the way it is. Notice the square angle iron welded to the bottom to repair rust damage (presumably). On the plus side I paid $10 for that beat up 1950 license plate instead of $100+ for a nice one that I would have had to get if the truck were all frou frou.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
KEVINSKI, I have straightened the tailgate since those pictures were taken. It was slightly binding on the rear cross sill and now moves smoothly thru the full range of open/closed. Any chance you could send me a link to that video? That's the approach I had in mind.
Otto Skorzeny, will do. It's a 'twenty footer' and runs like a top. I drove it to the MBA Roundup last month in Independence, MO. Here's some pics for your viewing pleasure....
It's pretty nice but not perfect. Therefore, how would you repair the tailgate? If you do it properly (which is the only way to do anything) it will stand out like a sore thumb. You'll have a nice, shiny, new-looking tailgate on a nice, but worn truck. I see no point in doing a half-arsed job on the gate to bring it up to a mediocre standard.
If you ever repaint the truck, fix the gate at that time.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I kind of agree with Otto on waiting till you paint the whole truck. You might be able to spot paint the tailgate, but it would be tough to match the rest of the truck.
In order to fix the tailgate dents (first pics you posted) it would probably be necessary to drill out the spot welds holding the end piece on the left side so you have access to put something like a pipe inside as an anvil. I did a similar thing on my bedsides (a ball bearing on a slide hammer with marks to get the ball in the right place from the end) but that already had an open end. The tailgate is 16 gauge (or thicker) and would be hard to work without some heat. You might be able to weld puller points in the dents and use heat to pull them back up. Here's some pics of my tool I used as an anvil on the bedside rolls. BTW, your tailgate looks awesome compared to mine when II got the truck, it became a wall hanger. (more pics)
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Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
I found the video it was by Carter auto restyling took some screenshots of how to find it ,it is under buyer beware then there are 26 videos one of is about the tailgate ,hope this helps
Here's the direct link to that video where he reconstructs the tailgate. www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7dMY-GobMM He basically took it completely apart and straightened it piece by piece. He might have been better off rolling new top and bottom pieces from new metal, but that's not where he's at. He's restored many things I would have sent to the junkyard.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
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~Charley 1954 Chevy 3100 with 235 “Bud” Follow along in the DITY 1963 Chevy half ton stepside short box 230 1954 GMC 3 ton 302 And several more Chevy camper and work trucks 1979 1987 1996
It all depends on how handy you are Andy... To me, that looks like a miserable task any way you would go about it. Even if you drill out the one hundred or so spotwelds, Those dents are deep and irregular. That means there is a lot of stretched metal to contend with. Not fun even if one is good at shrinking metal on curved, thick sheet metal.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Well, ask and you shall receive. Thanks for all of your comments and suggestions! I'm looking forward to the video, that should convince me one way or the other. If a guy makes an informed decision to do nothing, that's doing something, isn't it?
And if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
If it was mine, the first thing I would do is clamp the tailgate bow side down and the bottom facing you, to a strong steel table, two timbers or steel beams, with the bottom facing you, so you can remove the bend. Position it with a 1x4 plank in the middle (so you can over bend the tailgate) then add clamps to both sides. I would protect the tailgate with some wood under the clamps. Slowly clamp a little on each side while hammering the bowed out sections on the top and bottom (bottom of the tailgate) relieving the stress. Clamp a little more and continue to hammer relieving the stress. Continue this process and clamp until you’re bowed in the other direction. You’ll need your over bend the tailgate, under the clamping force because once you remove the clamp it will relax some, hopefully straight. If not bend some more.
This process should remove the big bows and leave just a little dimple at the very top on the rounded corner. I would then use a stud welder and slide hammer to remove that dimple.
If you don’t have such a tool, I would drill a hole on the backside and use a drift pin to punch that dimple out. That would leave a small hole on the inside of the tailgate to weld.
You could also drill a hole in the deepest part of the dimple and use a slide hammer with a screw attachment to help remove the remaining dent. I personally don’t like this method as it tends to raise the section around the screw more then the dent.
I would also remove the bend at the top (same clamping technique), as you’re going this process, as that will also reduce the overall stress in the tailgate.
On the top roll, I had a pretty good dent that I removed by cutting on both sides, drilled out the spot weld, then pealed back the metal to access it from the back side. Once the dent was removed, I started to bend it back slowly, tacking the seams along the way as they aligned to one another.
You could probably remove most of those dents without repainting, then remove the rest when/if you decide to repaint the entire truck.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc Brakes Project Journals Stovebolt Gallery Forum
If this truck was the last one known to exist, I would remove ALL of the spotwelds on the entire tailgate and work on each piece separately and clamp all of the parts back in place and weld all of the spotwelds back in.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Right. And It's no J Model Duesenberg so good enough is good enough.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I like the way you guys think. The video gave me a good understanding of what I'm in for, should I decide to proceed. Thanks for those good ideas on how to straighten the tailgate and remove the dents. It's definitely the eyesore of the truck. The truck was purchased thirteen years ago and aside from some bed and grill work, there hasn't been any body work done to it by me. As I said, it's a 'twenty footer' and probably will be for a while......