Looking real good John. Bet you are getting a little more excited. Good luck with the clutch. You will be going around the block soon. Great perseverance.
1946 Chevy Truck 216 1/2 ton "Tales from a weekend mechanic" Follow in the DITY
How'd the regulator cleaning/oil/greasing turn out? Easy up down operation now?
The truck is chomping at the bit to take a "resurrected maiden voyage" IMHO! You really have made super and speedy progress on getting your truck back together. Be proud of your accomplishments.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
The passenger side still rolls up/down easier, but the driver's side is much improved. I found a YouTube video that helped me figure out how to remove the regulator, but it turned out to be pretty simple if you know which screws to remove.
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
John There are roller bearings at the bottom of the mechanism. Those are likely worn to flat spots that now mostly just allow the parallel arms to slide rather than roll through the horizontal channel. Sparky’s were worn almost to flat spots. Someone here, I believe, suggested replacing the rollers with hardware store plastic like patio door screen rollers. That was done and along with scrubbing clean and lubrication the mechanisms function smooth and easy.
Last edited by 46Sparky; 06/16/20262:09 PM. Reason: Photo added
Yes! I noticed a very small flat spot on each roller. I haven't put the door skin on yet, so maybe I'll take it out again to verify if it seems useable or not. Thanks for the heads up.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
John If the flat spot(s) are small enough, I wonder if using a file to reshape the roller would work? Sparky’s bearings were too far gone to even attempt that seemingly easy fix.
The Filling Station has replacement rollers & rivets for at least AD series trucks. Might work on the earlier trucks too. They're a nylon roller and should take care of the issue of flat spots. You probably need to be careful about filing them down because if they get too small they might pop out of the track. Here's a link. Window regulator roller
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
These rollers are pretty good. Just a very small flat spot. But, these don't actually roll - they just glide along the rail. After cleaning the rail with a wire brush and adding a little grease, the window rolls up/down nicely now. Completed both doors.
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
I’m pretty sure those rollers need to spin freely. There are other window assembly components, such as the spring for the window crank that could snap under heavy use. Replacing those springs, if they break, is a hassle.
I’m pretty sure those rollers need to spin freely...
I'm puzzled. I'm pretty sure mine don't spin. I tried grabbing one with pliers and wiggled it back and forth, but it does not turn. I'm a little concerned, but the window rolls up pretty easy. Well, after I do my test drives, this will be a task I go back to look at again.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
I took the door panel off the passenger side to clean the inside yesterday, but not much was in there. I rolled the window up/down, but did not actually watch to see if the rollers were spinning. So, I've put this on my "tasks" list to verify.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
WAHOO! FIRST DRIVE TODAY!! First thing I did this morning was to adjust the clutch - now I can get it into gear. Backing out of the garage and wondering why I wasn't rolling so good. I guess I should take off the E-brake! Then tested the brakes a couple time backing down the driveway. I just drove it down the street and back, but oh what a feeling to have this truck back on the road. One guy in a new Silverado gave me the thumbs up. Here's a link to the video I posted on YouTube. LINK
So glad all you Stovebolters took time to help me these many months. THANK YOU! Now I have some little things to finish up like: vacuum wipers, 12v motors for the heater/defroster, some kind of toolbox, spare tire mount,...
Again, to all Stovebolters - Much Appreciated! 👍
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Still says private when I click on that link. Maybe you need to make a new link
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I'm beginning to wonder if you really did drive that vehicle. All of this seems mighty fishy!
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I guess when you post a video as "private", it takes a few minutes before you can make it "public"? Scheduled to go "public" at 3:15pm, in a few minutes.
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Pretty cool. That truck looks so nice with the proper skinny blackwall tires on it.
What'd you hit when you pulled in? hahaha
Last edited by Otto Skorzeny; 06/17/20269:20 PM.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Cool! It goes backwards AND forwards! A milestone for sure. Congrats.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
This is about killing me! MN must be behind the times. Still private for me. I’ll have to check later.
Update. Finally made it here. Very cool nice work John. Now the fun begins. All of your hard work has paid off. Nice to see another ‘46 driving down the road😎
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1946 Chevy Truck 216 1/2 ton "Tales from a weekend mechanic" Follow in the DITY
Well done! An inspiration for those of us not so far along on the journey!
When I made the decision to start this project, I wasn't sure I could do it. Taking it apart 20+ years ago seemed easy, but the "putting it back together" might be another story. I heard many of the Stovebolters here say, "15 minutes a day". That helped me get through some of the tougher tasks - just doing little by little. Some days only cleaning up and organizing. Not sure I would do another project like this, but never say never.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Did my first break-in drive today - about 20 minutes. I need to get use to shifting/down shifting this 4-speed trans. A couple things I noticed after the drive: 1) Some fuel around bottom of the Rochester carburetor and 2) Some oil on the engine drip pan on the driver's side under the oil filter. So tomorrow I'll check the carb screws and oil line fitting at the bottom of the filter cannister for tightness.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Personally, I don't like to downshift if it isn't necessary. Brakes are cheaper and easier to replace than a clutch
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
What? An 80-year-old truck has some leaks? That's unheard of!
The carburetor might sort itself out after the gaskets swell up. Of course check all the screws for the proper torque but once you start using it seepage will probably go away.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
John - What an awesome and enjoyable sight to see and hear your truck get out and about! It very much brightened my morning! I know I've enjoyed the journey along with you and so glad we could participate and offer some help now and then.
The shifting of the "Crash Box" will come with time and patience. Learning to double clutch to smooth out gear transitions won't take long, but it might give your left leg some unexpected extra exercise - lol!
The Rochester is most likely going to be so much the same as it's brothers. They do have a tendency to leak/seep, but there are some tweaks you can learn about in many on-topic threads to help you work towards resolving. On the suspected drips from the oil filter, don't forget to check the cup gasket/seal.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Congratulations John! This really is a milestone and a remarkable accomplishment. Now you get to resolve all the other issues you didn’t know you had! It’s all good and at least you get to enjoy the fruits of you labor!
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc Brakes Project Journals Stovebolt Gallery Forum
Personally, I don't like to downshift if it isn't necessary. Brakes are cheaper and easier to replace than a clutch
I would agree with that--especially with an unsynchronized crash box transmission. I assume you'll mostly be driving it empty without a load on it, so it shouldn't be that much of an issue. And as mentioned, you'll get the hang of double clutching after you drive it a bit.
I only had the timing done statically, but I wanted to officially get it set with a timing light. I had a little trouble finding the BB on my flywheel. I just had to turn the distributor a little bit more and the BB showed up in the view finder with pointer. After a few tries, I was able to get the pointer lined up with the BB and tighten down the distributor.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Test drive #2 - Went for a 15 minute drive this morning. Parked in the garage, truck in neutral and I can't push the truck. I jacked up the rear end and I can turn the tires by hand, but it is very difficult. I do not have the E-brake on, but I'm going to pull the wheels and check the brakes. Torque tube and pumpkin are not hot to the touch.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Are the front wheels as hard to turn by hand as the rear wheels?
Probably adjusted the brakes too tightly.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Are the front wheels as hard to turn by hand as the rear wheels?
Probably adjusted the brakes too tightly.
That's what I'm thinking. I let the truck sit a couple hours and I can now push it back and forth now. On my test drives I've notice the brake pedal is solid right at the top. Usually the pedal should go down a little bit before you start feeling the pressure. So, I'm going to back off the brakes a little bit and not have them so snug. I'll update my findings. Thanks Otto!
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Go back to the manual and set those Huck brakes by the book. Don't do them like Bendix brakes.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)