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Questions: 1 Is there a filter in the carburetor? 2. Would the fuel pump cause the intermittent issue? 3. any other suggestions?
any suggestions are welcome. thanks in advance.
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,477 Moderator, Electrical Bay | | Moderator, Electrical Bay Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,477 | There is no filter in the carburetor unless somebody swapped the carburetor for a later Carter (for a 230 or 250)...which is possible. The fuel pump could be the problem. Especially if you replaced it with one of the Chinese pumps when you overhauled the engine. Could be something in the fuel pickup (in the gas tank) or the fuel line or gas tank itself. A dirty or rusty gas tank can cause trouble like this. You should not have much in the fuel filter if your tank and lines are okay.
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | The outlet pipe at the bottom of the gas tank came with a roll of screen sticking out of end of the pipe. They usually aren't there 70 later. So you will be left with noting to keep a sizable flake from sloshing around in the tank and occasionally covering the top of the down pipe, causing an intermittent fuel blockage. It is difficult to confirm that this is happening, unless you disconnect the fuel line to check proper flow at the very time the errant flake is there blocking the pipe. If the engine starts after sitting for a while, that could indicate that the flake is only partially blocking the flow, and enough fuel eventually slips by allowing gravity to re-establish enough fuel flow to start the engine and it will run for a while.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2025 Posts: 100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2025 Posts: 100 | Reminds me of the old "ping pong ball" trick! | | | | | Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,982 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,982 | Remove the gas cap and drive it again, maybe the tank is not venting.
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2019 Posts: 315 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2019 Posts: 315 | I agree with 78Buckshot opinion. A friend entered a demolition derby and had no vent system on the vehicle, and it died after a few minutes. Needless to say, he lost. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,690 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,690 | When you remove the gas cap, do you feel a vacuum or hear a rush of air? If so, the valve in the cap is stuck shut. This is very common with certain new caps.
This prevents fresh air from entering the tank to replace the fuel being removed by the fuel pump.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 123 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 123 | Thanks for the suggestions. I will try the gas cap. I have had this problem with my Model A in the past. I did not think of it for the more modern "43.
If I removed the fuel line at the inline filter and blew back through the line, would I get enough air through the fuel pump to dislodge something in the line. I realize this would only be temporary until it found its way to the fuel line again. if that cleared it i would remove the tank and clean it well. Thanks again for the suggestions. Frank
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,472 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,472 | If you’re getting debris in the filter, your tank probably needs a good cleaning or replacing.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,690 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,690 | If you blow through the line, use compressed air and remove the gas cap, first. What kind of debris were you getting in the filter?
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,187 Insomniac | | Insomniac Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,187 | If you have kids, maybe one of them put some dirt and rocks in the tank. Sorry, Dad. 
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