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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 | I try to drive my truck weekly during spring/summer. It’s been a couple weeks, but went out today to fire it up and run some errands.
It became immediately clear I had no clutch function. Grinding into any gear. Clutch worked perfectly fine when I last drove and parked it in the shed out back.
Figured something was stuck so I tried stomping and releasing over and over. Then I got the idea to start it in gear (reverse)….hoping that might free something up. Reversing out of the shed means reversing up hill. That worked fine, but still no clutch. Then when I shut it off, it was stuck in gear. Took me a minute to figure that out. Ended up chocking wheels and jacking rear off the ground and then she came out of gear just fine.
Rolled it back down the hill and into its parking place into the shed in neutral. Started it again and, voila! Clutch is healed.
Before I jump the the conclusion of needing a new clutch…..can someone help diagnose based on this sequence of events?
1951 3100
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 | Explained all this to a mechanic neighbor of mine. He says it’s likely the pressure plate that stuck and outlined a procedure to unstick if it happened again.
Think it was just some weird animal and that I’m good to run it for a while like this?
Or should I do the clutch job ASAP because it’s likely to strand me somewhere?
1951 3100
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,959 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,959 | I`d inspect the throwout bearing
~ BD. "You won't find me in an old folks home" Pioneer Florida Cracker 1958 Apache Stepside 1958 Apache 1/2 ton Panel 1959 Apache 1/2 ton Panel
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 | Can that be done just by removing the inspection cover?
1951 3100
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,001 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,001 | I’ve had this happen to Doughboy, after sitting for a while. I just turn the key with the clutch disengaged (in gear) and the clutch releases from the flywheel.
~ Victor 1941 3/4-Ton Pickup (in process). Read about it in the DITY Gallery1955 Grumman Kurbside "Doughboy" 235/3 on tree w/ OD 1957 3100 - moved on 1959 C4500 Short Bus "Magic Bus" - moved on 1959 G3800 1 Ton Dually "Chief" - moved on 1958 C4400 Viking "Thor" ~ moved on to fellow Bolter | | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,959 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,959 | Can that be done just by removing the inspection cover? No, you`d have to drop the drive shaft and back the transmission out. When things fix themselves always makes me suspicious why. Drive it and listen.
~ BD. "You won't find me in an old folks home" Pioneer Florida Cracker 1958 Apache Stepside 1958 Apache 1/2 ton Panel 1959 Apache 1/2 ton Panel
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,595 Moderator | | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,595 | I have had this happen before on a Jeep I used to have after it was driven thru deep water and now have it happening on a 46 Chevy I bought this spring. On the jeep after I got the clutch wet, then let it dry overnight, the clutch plate stuck to the flywheel. Once I freed it up and drove it, It worked like normal and never happened again. Now on the 46 with the 216 and crash box, it had a rear main leaking bad and was not drove enough, so it is sticking. That will be my winter project to pull the engine and tranny. Maybe a 235 and T-5 to replace it.
To get a clutch unstuck, start the engine in neutral and warm it up. Then shut it back down and start it in gear the direction you want to go with the clutch pedal down. Goose the engine a few times until the clutch breaks free. Then also drive it some in the city and it should be alright.
Another thing you might practice when you are driving alone. How to drive it without using the clutch at all. And I mean starting and stopping all the way home. Let us know how it turns out.
Don 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery1946 2-Ton grain truck 1946 3/4-ton pickup, 1953 1-ton pickup 1957 1-ton flatbed dually, 1954 Pontiac Straight Eight Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 | I pull the dust cover, block the clutch pedal all the way down with a piece of 2X4 between the seat frame and the pedal, and drive a thin putty knife blade between the clutch disc and the flywheel. There are a few places between the mounting points of the clutch cover where you can reach the disc. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 | I have had this happen before on a Jeep I used to have after it was driven thru deep water and now have it happening on a 46 Chevy I bought this spring. On the jeep after I got the clutch wet, then let it dry overnight, the clutch plate stuck to the flywheel. Once I freed it up and drove it, It worked like normal and never happened again. Now on the 46 with the 216 and crash box, it had a rear main leaking bad and was not drove enough, so it is sticking. That will be my winter project to pull the engine and tranny. Maybe a 235 and T-5 to replace it.
To get a clutch unstuck, start the engine in neutral and warm it up. Then shut it back down and start it in gear the direction you want to go with the clutch pedal down. Goose the engine a few times until the clutch breaks free. Then also drive it some in the city and it should be alright.
Another thing you might practice when you are driving alone. How to drive it without using the clutch at all. And I mean starting and stopping all the way home. Let us know how it turns out.
Don It’s freed up now. And I have several good suggestions on how to free it should it happen again. What I don’t quite understand yet….was this just some weird anomaly or is it very likely to happen again? Perhaps that’s an unanswerable question and I just have to drive it and find out.
1951 3100
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 | If you're going to park the vehicle for more than a few days, use a piece of wood (even a cut-off broomstick) to block the clutch pedal down. No more stuck disc that way. Set the parking brake or chock the wheels. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,752 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,752 | Cars don't like sitting.
Ol' Roy has never had that problem but it gets used a few times a week. The clutch would do that on my brother's MG, which sat around a lot due to electrical problems.
I normally leave the truck in gear when parked. Will that cause the clutch to be more likely to stick?
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 | No, what causes a disc to stick to the flywheel is the constant force applied to it by the pressure plate. Relieve that tension, and the disc will stay free to move. Just apply the parking brake and/or chock the wheels. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,959 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,959 | It`ll stick after sitting for a couple weeks? that sounds wrong. never seen/heard of that. whats out of adjustment?
~ BD. "You won't find me in an old folks home" Pioneer Florida Cracker 1958 Apache Stepside 1958 Apache 1/2 ton Panel 1959 Apache 1/2 ton Panel
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | Rusty flywheel. Drive the truck more often. That rust will go away. We have a problem with disc brakes in the humid summers around here if you don't drive for a while. When you start out for the day, it sounds like someone put a piece of 40 grit sandpaper on all of the pads, then when you hit the brakes it sounds like crush and run on the pads. After a while it self corrects.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,677 | Certainly not the first time the truck has sat idle for a couple weeks in hot, humid weather. But the first time it’s ever done this. All good suggestions.
I just need to drive it a bit and see what happens
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