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The pump head says 5hp. Motor tag is 5hp 15 amps. I have it to a 15A double pole breaker.
The only difference is this pump head is two piston.
Does my motor need attention, do I need a bigger breaker, or a smaller pully on the motor cause of two pistons vs one?
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 2,435 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 2,435 | The smaller pulley on the motor would help as long as it didn't cause belt slip. But I'd start by address the electricals.
A circuit breaker should be rated higher than the running load. Check the "starting load" of the motor, and then size the breaker and wiring to match.
10 gauge wire should do if the run isn't too long..
Last edited by Bill Hanlon; 05/26/2025 5:16 PM.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,982 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,982 | 15 amps seems too lite for a 5 horse motor, the nameplate should give you a FLA or LRA rating, full load amps is probably near that 110 psi, locked rotor amps is at start-up. you could swap it over to another 2 pole breaker to test the theory. While you are in the breaker panel, tighten every screw that you can find but BE CAREFULL!
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| | | | | Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 | Tag on motor says 15A. Wire gauge is 10 as this originally was a 30A 110 rv plug.
More I think about it I am leaning to a smaller motor pully, but swapping the breakers out is easy. I have a 40A in the panel. I am comfortable working inside a live panel. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,471 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,471 | Does your compressor system have an unloader valve? It unloads the pressure in the cylinder head so the compressor isn’t trying to overcome high pressure on restart. Here is a site that explains it’s function.
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,740 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,740 | Does the compressor have an unloader that allows the motor to spin up to speed before it starts compressing? If not, one should be installed. Are you running 120 or 240 volts? A 5 HP motor on 120 is sending a boy to do a man's job. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 | | | | | | Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 | Does the compressor have an unloader that allows the motor to spin up to speed before it starts compressing? If not, one should be installed. Are you running 120 or 240 volts? A 5 HP motor on 120 is sending a boy to do a man's job. Jerry The spare one i got for nothing just for a flywheel had a 3hp 120 motor on it which was advertised for 175 lbs. | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 10,997 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 10,997 | It's not just the pressure capability that dictates what HP is needed, but the displacement of the compressor. So your spare with a 3 hp motor doesn't mean anything. I'll bet it's quite a bit smaller physically than the one you're planning on using.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 2,435 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 2,435 | It's not just the pressure capability that dictates what HP is needed, but the displacement of the compressor. You could run the whole thing with a 1/2 HP motor if you had a big enough pulley on the compressor. It might take a week of Tuesdays to pump the tank all the way up though.
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2025 Posts: 30 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2025 Posts: 30 | Well there is hp and then there is china hp But I tend to have 20 amp 220 plugs or even 30 amp plugs Size the breaker to the wire, 20 amp should help Your pressure switch will have a max and a start pressure. It won’t start again till pressure is down to the min. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,258 | Evening all. I swapped breakers and the motor simply ran put of steam and would not restart when the psi switch closed.
So I brought the motor to a rebuild shop nest me. They tested it and found it making 5hp at 15 amps. Said it's doing everything it was designed to do.
They sold me a smaller and adjustable sheath pully. Installed in the tallest setting which was much smaller than original.
Now belt is too long and not enough adjustment.
Two trips to the parts house and got one to fit. Now it runs to full psi 155 without shutting down, and restarts at 120.
Looks like the two piston head unit makes a big difference. | | |
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