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I’ve gotten to the point of trying to get the glass ready to install but can’t get the setting tape going. Lightly tapping with a rubber mallet doesn’t work and I don’t want to hit it any harder.
Anyone have a tip on getting it on the glass?

Next thing is I can’t seem to find the interior window molding anywhere. Anyone have a source for those.

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Doug, have you put some light oil on the setting tape? That's what the Service Manual calls for. Don't be afraid of muscling up on that mallet. You'd be surprised how stout glass is. Just be sure you have it set on your workbench with some light padding underneath the edge.

As far as the interior trim molding, I don't think they're reproduced (I may be wrong, though.) Lean on fellow bolters who can probably come up with one for you if you post an ad in the Swap Meet.


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Thanks for the tip K. There’s two sides to the tape. One is sorta sticky and the other looks like an inside lining. Which goes on the glass.

Found used garnish trim molding but the are way up there on price. I’m talking $200 range for both. But I guess it’s to be expected on some hard to find parts.

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I don't recall on the setting tape, but guessing the sticky side would go on the glass. Wrap it tightly around the glass, put a little slick stuff on the outside and tap the channel on.

Service manual says "soapstoned side of filler away from glass" which would be sticky side in. Here's the blurb from the service manual.

[on edit]I found new interior trim for 47-50 for $99 each side from Speedway (Dynacorn brand.) I don't know if they could be modified to fit '51-'55.1 trucks though. Dynacorn doesn't list them for the later ADs with vent windows. Seems like used should go for a bit less than that.
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Thanks for the info.. will be at it shortly and update the thread.

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I found this post that sheds some light on using 47-50 window interior garnish moulding on a 51-54:

Originally Posted by LonnieC
Note on the interior window trim: Although they look similar, the stainless trim I bought from a 47-50 (no vent windows) is completely different from my '54 trim. See photo. Non-vent interior trim on left is a little "thinner" than 3/4" at the bottom and a little "thicker" than 3/4" at the top. Interior trim for vent window doors is a little thinner than 1" at the bottom and a little thicker than 1" at the top. Of course there is a cut out for the vent on the bottom of the '54 trim and a screw hole on the bottom of the '54 trim vs no hole on the non-vent trim. There is also a weld visible on the inside of the bottom of the '54 trim near the vent.

The original post had a link to the photo that I attached.

Heres a [LINK] to the original post.
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Thanks for all the info. I've got the window track on and drying overnight it should be good to clean up this evening..
Took the wing vent out (ugh) and masked the door off and painted the rest that needed it just now.. I'll let it sit in the sun and cure until I get home from my shop tonight.

I need to paint a bit on the very bottom of the outside bottom of the door (blue) after I stop and get some on the way home.. then that should take care of painting. On this door at least..but now I know what needs to be painted so it should go faster next time.

next up is the door seal. That should be fun with the black adhesive..

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I gave up with using setting tape. Aftermarket glass thickness combined with not able to find the correct thickness of tape.
Glass shops have to deal with these types of issues all the time and have what they need on hand.
I don’t.
I use 3M or similar black RTV sealant and run a bead in the channel and shove the glass in and let it cure.
I don’t worry about the excess that ends up on the glass. A new razor blade will clean it up after it has cured.
I have never had one come loose, but if it ever needs come loose, it isn’t difficult to get the glass out and clean up the RTV out of the groove.
I had thought about using polyurethane adhesive, but that would be overkill and the next guy who has to replace that glass and remove that glue would likely hunt me down and kill me.

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I had a glass shop put the lower channels on both my door windows, mainly because I had them cut one of the windows for me anyway. But I successfully used setting tape on the wing vents. It wasn't a bad job at all.


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The key to the setting tape is buying the right size. The first one I bought from a known vendor supposedly for the vent windows were way too big so I ended up ordering new from eBay. Measure the gap in the window frame, measure the glass then subtract the two. The remainder gets split and you end up with the available space for the tape. I bought one that was just slightly bigger and it worked out perfect.


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