A new tank isn't a performance option, or part of the engine, and outside the cab it isn't an interior part. Soooo I am putting this in GTT for lack of a compelling reason for it to be anywhere else. If someone has a strong feeling about somewhere else it should go, let's hear why.
Anyway, the tank in my 58 is mostly rusted through and needs replacement. I am not really worried about the safety aspect that a lot of people bring up for those tanks, but I like having space behind the seat for tools and emergency gear.
I have been looking at various options to move the tank out, but even the "cheap" ones are $500+. If you want one with a side fill instead of a bed fill the price goes up to the $700 range, plus senders and accessories. Most of the available underbed tanks are also only 12-15 gallons and I explicitly did not want to lose capacity.
What I found is that Tanks Inc. makes a 69-72 Blazer tank that looked like it would fit for $329. It is an 18 gallon tank with a side fill that is fully baffled and has an integrated return bucket if someone wanted to use it with EFI.
I picked one up and it fits like it was made for the truck. I set it up where the passenger side flange slides up into the frame channel, then the driver side is lifted up and both sides bolt through the existing spare tire lift holes.
There is ~1" of space from the top of the tank to the bottom of the bed supports, so the fact that the sender and pickup tubes are below one of the supports is not an issue.
The tube for the filler neck fits nicely between the top of the frame and the bottom of the wood. In the picture below, I have the neck turned down for convenience. My short term plan is to just turn it up and have it come through the bed until I redo the wood. Once I am ready to work on the bed, I will make a fender door/box for it.
Overall I am *quite* pleased with this. It is basically flush with the bottoms of the fenders and the flanges are wide enough that I can still reach in from the back to tighten the bolts on the bumper supports.
I am hoping to get it drilled for the mounting holes and permanently mounted tomorrow.
Jason, The post topic fits in GTT just fine. As it is primarily geared toward using this tank in Task Force pickups, maybe revise the title a bit to be a little more specific on your application? That will provide more detail about the post for future Bolters searching for what others have already done.
On that note, I read several older posts on tank relocations and some indicated this particular tank has also been used in relocating AD series pickup tanks from cab to under bed.
Looking forward to seeing/reading more on your project.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
I have read a decent amount on TF conversions and have not seen (or at least noticed) this tank mentioned for them before.
My plan was to make a fuel door in the driver fender, but I am toying with the idea of hooking it up to the stock filler. There was a previous thread (that I can't find at the moment) where someone connected the stock filler to (fiero?) tanks under the bed.
This is a 1.5" filler. The stock one is 1.375", but I should be able to make an adapter for that.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Just a side note, this tank works great for 3100 (1/2 ton) trucks butnot for 3600 (3/4 ton) trucks. The rear frame spacing being different between the two. I also did a tank relocation using a Tanks Inc. for my 3600 but I did loose capacity.
Is it possible to leave the in cab filler neck and use fuel filler hose to run to the tank through the cab floor?
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Is it possible to leave the in cab filler neck and use fuel filler hose to run to the tank through the cab floor?
I am trying to figure that out. The potential issue I see is that the vent comes over the frame rail with the fill tube. Routing it to the cab filler will require letting it dip down under the bed supports. That gives the potential for trapping liquid in the vent side and causing issues with fill rate.
What about out the back of the cab just above the floor (between the bed front and cab back)? Perhaps a solid metal or PVC bend could be used there.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I think Mike B used this or a similar tank on his wife’s TF and used a side door. I believe he told me he ran some plumbing down the passenger side to accommodate filling.
~ Victor 1941 3/4-Ton Pickup (in process). Read about it in the DITY Gallery 1955 Grumman Kurbside "Doughboy" 235/3 on tree w/ OD 1957 3100 - moved on 1959 C4500 Short Bus "Magic Bus" - moved on 1959 G3800 1 Ton Dually "Chief" - moved on 1958 C4400 Viking "Thor" ~ moved on to fellow Bolter
Just a side note, this tank works great for 3100 (1/2 ton) trucks but not for 3600 (3/4 ton) trucks. The rear frame spacing being different between the two. I also did a tank relocation using a Tanks Inc. for my 3600 but I did loose capacity.
Excellent point and great info on the distinction between 1/2 and 3/4 ton AD trucks. Thanks for providing it!
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~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
This might inspire something. Its on a S10 chassis but if you notice, he did use the filler location in the cab & the factory S10 tank in the chassis. This link is below, there's more pics there too.....
Amazon sells the tanks for $120 ( w/ free shipping) Comes with 20 gallon capacity. Get an exhaust shop to bend a stainless steel exaught pipe ( or 2) & use the factory fill location.
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1959 3100, original 235/3 on the tree w/overdrive. Carter YF 2100S carb, 205/75/15 w/front sway bar
For Dana's '56 3100 I used a Panel/Suburban tank that mounts between the passenger side frame rail and the driveshaft. I really didn't want to use a in-bed filler as we knew we were going to add a tonneau cover to secure our luggage when we travel and we didn't want the luggage to smell like gas if it dripped while filling. The Suburban tank also allowed us to retain the spare tire in it's factory location, a must for long distance travel. A bonus is that this tank is a direct bolt is as the frames are all made the same. The only down side is the tank is only 15 gallons.
For the filler door I used Tanks Inc Filler Door FFD-A and cut it into the rear passenger fender just behind the tire. It basically took (2) fuel rated 90* rubber hoses and a straight piece of thin wall galvanized pipe to plumb it out. The only tricky thing was getting the vent done, I connected copper tubing to the factory tank vent and ran it inside the fender well to the underside of the top of the fender then bent a U-turn and dropped it down to the bottom of the fender so if it puked any gas it would just drip on the ground and not on the fender or frame.
Gents, Just a technical note to help the conversation move along. Original Chevrolet resource info I found for 1958 Chevrolet Pickups lists all 3100-3800's came equipped with a 17-1/2 gal capacity fuel tank in cab. The 18 gal capacity indicator comes from the descriptions given to reproduction replacement fuel tanks by most every vendor such as the Tanks Inc Model TM55B.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
The bigger inside tank is interesting. I will have to look at those.
I don't believe anyone is reproducing these 21 gallon tanks, you have get them from a donor truck...you'll need the filler neck as well as they are different than the 17 gallon neck.
Mike B
Mike Boteler
1956 Chevy 3100 Resto Rod 1952 Willys M38 Army Jeep 1983 Jeep CJ7 Laredo 1984 Jeep CJ7 +++++ Silver Spring, MD
I needed to remove the interior tank to get the seat out because someone had welded it in. I found this under the tank, which makes me fairly confident that whoever welded the seat in did it with the tank in place because the seat is from a 90s F*ord...
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)