I've got stomp-start on my 235. I'm fixing replacing the starter with a new gear reduction starter. Did it in my CJ5 and it's amazing, it starts faster than any of my more modern vehicles. Also being honest, I find of hate working on the truck and needing to either run into the cab to start it or yank the spring and reach down to starter it. I'd much prefer to convenience of jumping my solenoid like I can on every other older vehicle I own. But I do love the character and uniqueness of the stomp-start though and was thinking that it'd be great if there was some sort of electric switch that I could mount in the floor to trigger my starter solenoid. Anyone know of something that'd work for this? I that about maybe modifying a hi-beam switch to just be a momentary switch like what you'd want for a starter but I'd rather not go through that trouble if I could find an alternative.
It is a metal body momentary switch. Being IP66 rated, it should be fine in an automotive environment.
It is rated for 2.5A@24VDC, so you might need a relay (or a larger switch of the same concept) for the solenoid. I am not sure offhand how much current those solenoids draw.
We have had this question and answers. Try a search. As said, lots of "big" momentary push buttons available to design with. The one Mark linked is the type you want. Some folks have incorporated the original pedal and boot I think.
I've seen a 3/4" pipe cap attached to the push button on a similar switch with set screws, with an original foot start pedal adapted to the cap. Then use a rubber accordion bellows from a rack & pinion steering tie rod to hide the switch and pipe cap from view. It looks very similar to the original foot start setup. Jerry
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I have a stomp "switch" in the garage waiting for my 302 engine, which will have a 12v solenoid starter. The switch is from some tractor and it has a rubber "stomper" that I got from one of the usual old truck parts suppliers. Had to drill out the rubber part to match the size of the cap on the switch. A little black paint and it will look enough like a stock stomper that 90% of people who know what a stomp starter is would think it is original.
Last edited by Bill Hanlon; 04/19/20245:09 PM. Reason: additional info
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
$200 more than the standard starter to sound like a Highland Park Hummingbird? What's the point?
A standard 6v starter turns over the engine as fast as any modern car. It doesn't really have to spin much though since the points ignite instantly.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Ian, it's good to acknowledge the responding posters and advise when your question is answered, to end the discussion if you are satisfied. If not, ask more.
Where's your source on starters? I'd love to find a starter that's only $80, cheapest I've found is $220, and at that point, might as well just get the GR starter for the extra $40.
I’ve got the same setup. Got mine from a tractor supply. Now have to wire into park/neutral switch on shifter.ðŸ˜
Not sure why I hadn't thought to just use a push start, from a tractor like you have there. That looks like the starter switch of a 2/8/9N Ford. I think I'll do the same, thanks.
What is the point of this switch? Is it simply to eliminate the mechanical spring and lever system?
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
In my case it is to make the interior of the truck look like the stomp starter mechanics are still in place when you have a solenoid equipped starter. The switch connects between 12v "hot when the key is on" to the S terminal on the starter solenoid. That way if you stomp it when the key is off, it won't make the "in gear" truck jump. A little safer than the original setup.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
What is the point of this switch? Is it simply to eliminate the mechanical spring and lever system?
Like Bill said, it replaces the manual stomp-start floor pedal that actuates the bendix with an electric switch that activates the solenoid, while having the same general appearance of the stomp-start pedal. In my case, my truck is no where near useable but I regularly find myself needing to start the truck while working on it. Every other vehicle I own, I just leave a push button wired to the solenoid and have an easy way to start it. With this truck I have to drop what I'm doing and go get into the cab. Just a three minute annoyance I'd like to eliminate.
It's little things like this that add up to a truck that I hate to work on. But I do like the character, history, and uniqueness of the stomp-start pedal and would like to keep some homage to it around.