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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | I want to install a new aluminum radiator on a 54 3100 235 that I am restoring and so far all the radiators I am finding have a 1.5” upper hose neck and a 1.75” lower hose neck. The problem I have is the stock upper hose is 1.25” and the stock lower hose is 1.5”. Is there another set of hoses available or a radiator with the correct hose necks? Thanks. Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 69 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 69 | I had the same problem...the stock hoses will fit with a bit of silicone grease and muscle. No leaks so far but I'm not a rubberologist and don't know if it will cause problems in the future.
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1947 Chevy 3100 -57 Chevy 235 -95 S10 T5 Transmission -97 Blazer 3.42 Rear End
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,926 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,926 | Assuming larger hoses are used on the radiators with the larger inlets and outlets, will that change the rate of flow through the radiator and improve/hamper cooling efficiency?
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | ClickScroll down the link to see the 6 CYL highlighted radiator with 1.25 and 1.5 hose connections.
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Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Many times I have searched the hose rack at FLAPS to find a hose with correct ID and with a section of it that matched shape and cut off the rest, takes time.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,298 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,298 | Search eBay for 47-54 Chevrolet truck radiator. Scroll until you see one with the top tank which is shaped like what comes on an original brass radiator. That is what I use and they fit right and keep the engine temperature at 180, and you can prime and paint the top tank and the side and it will look original as all get out. A bit over $200.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2023 Posts: 103 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2023 Posts: 103 | Classic Parts of America sells a formed hose Part # 82-125 that is 1 1/2" on one end and 1 3/4" on the other end. It is sold to be used when installing a later engine with a newer style water pump (55 -62 pumps have a 1 3/4 inch connection) to an older radiator (47-54 rads have a 1 1/2 inch outlet). If you turn it around you should be able to install the 1 1/2' end on your 54 water pump and the 1 3/4" end on the aluminum rad. For the upper hose you could replace your 1 1/4 inch upper thermostat housing with a 1 1/2 inch housing from a later (55-62) engine and use a hose for 55-62 six cylinder.
1954 Chevy 1300 engine 235 (1959) 1955 (first series) Chevy 3100 engine 261 (1957) 1927 (other brand) Model T- engine 327 (1968)
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2023 Posts: 103 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2023 Posts: 103 | The aluminum radiators with the correct shaped upper tanks that 52Carl indicated are very nice and have fitted in the past (I have one, very pleased) unfortunately most of the newer ones have the larger connections even though they say they fit a 1954 rad. I have one purchased at a later date from the same supplier, same part number that is bigger. The correct size connections do come up but you have to check the posted dimensions.
1954 Chevy 1300 engine 235 (1959) 1955 (first series) Chevy 3100 engine 261 (1957) 1927 (other brand) Model T- engine 327 (1968)
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | No1300, Thanks! Seems like a workable solution! Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | 52Carl, I ordered one with a curved top. The owner threw out the original. Good grief never do that till we're done the project! I hopefully found a solution to the hoses. Thanks. Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | stlcardinalsguy, Rubberologist, love the term! I think i found a solution to the hoses that will keep the rubberologist at bay! Ha!
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | Otto Skorzeny Great question! Certainly above my pay grade, but to further your query, is it possible to speed up the flow faster than the speed of the water pump? Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | bartamos Thanks for your diligent research, as usual! I should have checked Champion. Grey matter is slipping. After kicking it around i opted for the three row on ebay vs the two row Champion since I found a solution to the hose issue and neck size issue. BTW, I assume FLAPS is some sort of Auto Parts Store. Never heard of them here in the east. Thanks again for your solution! Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | Gord&Fran I don't have the original radiator to size the new one as the owner threw the original away since he thought it had no value. I'm restoring the truck for him and my practice is don't throw anything away until the project is done. Too many clues in the original stuff. Thanks for your reply! Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,926 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,926 | I was thinking with larger inlets and outlets the water might flow slower through the radiator. Think of a garden hose with your thumb over the end.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | Otto Skorzeny Gotcha! I was thinking the opposite. I see what you mean. Something to consider. Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,500 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,500 | BTW, I assume FLAPS is some sort of Auto Parts Store. Never heard of them here in the east. Friendly Local Auto Parts Store!
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 32 | Well that is simple enough!🤣 Learned something new today! Thanks! Phil
Do it right the first time! 1964-1/2 Mustang Coupe 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1954 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton
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