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Getting ready to install in a medium duty (class-7) dump truck.
I have never seen one installed. So i am alittle lost.
It is divorced / It has mounting ears at rear, the cross member holds these ears and a disk type E-brake.
My big question is: What holds up/steadies the front of trans ?
A: modify input/output no u joints just straight coupeling and hang it off the rear of main ?
B: use a carrier bearing close to input?
C: Fab a front cross member and a mount for input flange ?
D: It will be fine hanging from to rear only ?
E: ??????

Pictures are always very helpfull

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Hy underdog,I'm afraid the answer is "E", there should be a circular mount for the front of the trans with a two bolt flat flange mount which attaches to a crossmember. Between the two transmissions is a short connecting shaft with two "U" joints in phase, and it is usually collapsable, as much as a shot shaft can be, hope that helps, if you need more info just ask.

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Yes that helps.
Where can i find a picture of said item ?
The front crossmember goes over or under ?
Is there isolation rubber at crossmember ?

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Hy again underdog, both crossmembers are above the trans. there are supposed to be isolation rubbers at all four mounts . I'm not a computer guy, but I'll see if my partner can post what pitiful drawings/pictures I can find

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Hy underdog, here are the illustrations I could find on installing the 6041 auxilliary transmission, hope they help, any more questions just ask


[img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o178/pintos4me/auxtrnmt2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o178/pintos4me/auxtrnmt1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o178/pintos4me/auxtranmt.jpg[/img]

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Ooops. Here is the one which was upside down.
Sorry.
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[img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o178/pintos4me/auxtrnmt1.jpg[/img]

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Thats a big help.
So the front is a support collar.
Thank you very much.
I have info on ratio"s and such but cannot locate
load capacacity.
Do you think this box will hold up to 40,000# loads,
Motor puts out:
210hp @ 2600rpm, 509ft/lb torque @ 1600rpm,

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The model 6041 means 600ftlb of torque, and 4 speed, and I think the one means auxiliary transmission.

So a 5831 is 580ftlb and 3 speed, a 7041 is 700ftlb and 4 speed, a 1241 is 1,200ftlb and 4 speed.

What I don't know for sure is if the torque rating is engine torque, or engine torque multiplied by first gear ratio in main transmission. If it were the later I think even a 235 with a 7 to one first gear is to much engine for that transmission, and I know they were put behind larger engines than that. So it sounds likely that the torque rating is for engine torque.

I imagine it will hold up fine in your application if you are careful, but a 7041 is probably better suited to your job.
I would install a temp gage and keep an eye on it, you are more likely to kill with high temps while pulling a load than with a sudden catastrophic failure, or if it is catastrophic the high temp will give you a warning.

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