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#1516658 09/09/2023 11:37 PM
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55.1 with 235-6, standard 3 speed trans, 3.9 rear end, 16-inch tires. I don't have a 6-volt tach. At 60 mph what are my RPMs?

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You need to provide the size of the tires so the revolutions per mile can be calculated. Some tire manufacturers provide the revolutions per mile.


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16 inch tires is that what you need?


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No, the actual tire size. The 16" size refers to the rim diameter, not the tire diameter.

We need that information to determine how far the truck travels per rotation of the axle.


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I believe we need the "overall" diameter (tread surface to tread surface) of the tire you have. The rim size doesn't allow us to do the proper math. wink

If the tires are nearby, maybe provide the specifics like brand name, dimensions as found on the sidewall and any other specific identifying info so we can know all needed details?

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The two stock sizes are 6-16 (28.5" tall) and 6.5-16 (29.9" tall). Based on your original post, I am going to assume you have one of them. If not, post the actual tire size you have (such as 235-75R16) and we can calculate the height from that.

6-16: 2759RPM
6.5-16: 2630RPM


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90.25 inches around the outside of the tire


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They are the 6X16 size. So far fast can I go at red line??


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With a tire that is supposedly close to orig (215 x 85 R16) your RPM will be about 2600.


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You must mean 3600?


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Given:

MPH = 60

Axle Ratio = 3.90

Trans Ratio = 1.00 (3 speed standard)

Tire circumference = 90.25" (converts to tire diameter = 28.72747" - rounded to nearest thousandth to 28.728" for entering into RPM calculator)

RPM = 2737 (rounded to nearest whole number)

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See also resource aid Calculate RPM... found on the main Tech Tips page thumbs_up

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Originally Posted by 1955firstseries
You must mean 3600?

No I don't. I mean about 2600, Show your math for extra credit.

"Insert-bearing 235's (1954-61) were horsepower-rated from 3800 to 4200 RPM, depending on year and application. The torque specifications were measured from 2,000 RPM to 2200, also application-wise. The Corvette 235's had different camshaft and carburetion, and were rated at higher RPM for both HP and torque.

Most engines cruise best at or near their torque peak, or slightly above it. I'd consider 2,500 RPM to be a very good cruise RPM, with moderate use at or above 3,000 well within the normal running range without doing any damage. That's assuming that such things as rod bearings and oil pressure are up to normal standards. A trashed-out piece of junk with excessive clearances everywhere needs to be nursed along, obviously.
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BTW - Now that we have gotten this far, I have moved the thread to the Driveline forum for further fun and conversation. yahoo

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The math is attached below.

Divide your desired RPM by 45.6 and that will give you speed in MPH. I don't know what you consider redline.

That is assuming that your final transmission gear is 1:1.
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Upon what I have found max horsepower, 105 NET, is approximately 3600 rpm, assuming that's "RED LINE" what speed would I be going before I find parts on the highway?

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79MPH is 3632RPM with that gearing.

That said, with 105HP I doubt you will get up to that speed in a flying brick.


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Using any of the many on-line RPM calculators I came up with 2739 when plugging in the following;

1:1 trans (3rd gear ratio)

3.90:1 rear

90.25 tire circumference = 28.7" diameter

60 mph

2739 rpm

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I think we got the ball park covered boys. There are many variables involved. No need to round to thousanths. smile


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Using the OP's stated 90.25" tire circumference (28.74" diameter) I calculate 2737 RPM at 60 MPH, just like MikeB..

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I can't do the math, but this calculator can..

https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc

Just put in your tire size and you may even compare two different tire sizes. It will provide RPMs at 65mph.


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Mph x gear ratio ÷ tire diameter ÷ .002975 = rpm.
My truck...
60 mph x 3.9 gear ÷ 28.7 diam ÷ .002975 = 2740 rpm. Confirmed by my dwell tach.

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I knew the answer would be found here.
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