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Hey...

Running into problem finding a carpet that fits my 1960 Chevy C10 with a stock 3-speed on the tree. Ordered from Rock-Auto, received carpet with backing from ACC, only to find it is too short from foot well to foot well (See pics). Verified I ordered the correct one and had to return it. Ordered one from LMC Truck and dammit, it is from ACC and has the same issue with being too short. It is so short, it doesn't even cover the high beam switch. Has anyone been successful in getting carpet that fits a 1960 to 1962 truck? As I understand, the floor is different in the 1963 to 1966 trucks.

Thanks in advance... Russ

Make sure you actually have a low hump trans cover.

I've run into similar problems with ACC products. Toronado one piece floor mat was 2 inches off to one side if you lined up all the pedals and cutouts. Ran up the firewall on one side and was 2" short on the other.

They asked me to send them drawings and photos detailing the problem so they could make changes to their tooling. Who knows if they actually did? I hear this story frequently about ACC and various car models.

It's very hard to believe they could have 60-66 carpet that does not fit after all the years of being in business. They say Made in America. The only answer, besides customer ordering error, is mis marked by ACC or Vendor....... A mold or pattern is pretty fool proof. I guess if thay had a batch made from the wrong material, it could shrink. But that is a lot of shrink.

I emailed them:
RE: FIT PROBLEM from a very large Chevy group forum: 1960 Chevy C10. Your carpet from Rockauto and LMC..... DID NOT FIT. Sent both back. Low hump/3sp. TOO SHORT on the sides. Several stories on the internet about this. I'm sure by now you can give a reason and where to buy that will fit.

ANSWER: I show we only carry two molds for this pick up, the high tunnel and low tunnel floor. When you returned those items, were you given return numbers to put on the boxes by those companies? I would like to see if they were sent back to us for inspection.



Thank you,



Phendra Parker

Customer Service

Auto Custom Carpets

Phone: 1-800-633-2358

Fax: 1-800-516-8274

pparker@accmats.com

www.accmats.com

Hi bartamos...

I sent back the carpet to RockAuto. As usual, you cannot talk to anyone at RockAuto and I had to eat the shipping cost. I am currently working with LMC to troubleshoot this issue with them. They stated they were going to see if they can get the carpet to fit in their location. I asked them to see if they can try and fit the high hump. Both companies stated that a 1960 2WD Chevy with a 3-speed column shift should order a low hump. The high hump is only for 4-speed on the floor or I think it stated 4WD.

P.S. With RockAuto, they try to steer you into shipping the carpet back at your expense which means you would loose the refund of the original shipment to me cost and have to pay for the shipment back. There was another option (sorry I cannot remember the exact words because they bombard you with so many computer asked questions) to say you disagree with the description of the item on their web site. When I choose this option, the response was basically that RockAuto did not make the error and that I did not make the error so the manufacture had to have made the error and because of this we both should share the cost of the shipping. This option meant I did not see a refund of the original shipping (to me) but that RockAuto would pay the return shipping by send a return shipping label thus saving me the cost of shipping it back.

Yes, you should order a low hump. The question for you is...are you SURE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A LOW HUMP TRANS COVER. It could have been changed for some reason by a previous owner. A low hump carpet on a high hump floor would be too short side to side.
Logic, which is just an educated guess, says that if two different vendor's carpets were too short, with carpet from a company that has sold many, that you or your truck is the focus point. So please verify that your truck has a low hump floor. If you are not sure, post a pic or two with good lighting.

You might be right as I am the 2nd owner and cannot ask the original owner of the truck. Also the hump is held on by bolts so who knows if it was changed.

Thank you for help with this. LMC is trying as well. Here is a picture of the floor without carpet and a few pics of measurements.

You have the high hump and it's associated firewall filler panel. They call high hump, 7" high. Some floor repair work possibly done. Overall looks good. Hopefully a high hump carpet will fit. Let's wait and see if others agree with my opinion before you buy.

Just went through this. I have a high hump and was sent a low hump. It looked exactly like yours. You have a high hump tunnel. I just got the new carpet from LMC and low n behold it fits like it should.

Hi Bartamos... Thank you so much for taking the time to help me. I noticed you stated "high hump and it's associated firewall filler panel". Are you saying the truck came with the high hump from the factory since the associated firewall filler panel is spot welding to the cab? It does not look like the firewall filler panel was replaced. There is only one small spot on the passenger floor by the footwell where a poor attempt at a patch was made.

Hey Ferris... just noticed the pic you added. Thanks!! Yes it looks like it will fit!

Don't know.

To followup on this issue, the High Hump is seen in the first picture of a 1960 C10 3-speed on the column and the Low Hump is seen in the 2nd picture of a 1962 C10 Suburban with a 3-speed on the column. The Green arrows point to the humps and the Yellow arrows point to the firewall pan that the hump connects to which is spot welded to the cab. These firewall pans are not interchangeable so the cab either comes with the high or low firewall pan from the factory (unless someone changed it after-market).

1. I was describing what you have/what I see. Which pertains to your carpet question.
2. Hi and Lo firewall filler panels are available.
3. Just because something is spot welded does not make it "not interchangeable". Otherwise a lot of sheet metal could not be repaired/replaced.
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5. According to what Chevy did, there should be no high hump 3 on the tree from the factory. But on the other hand you show one and you have one. I will assume that these truck's owners either changed cabs or trannys.....or.... mixed and matched during a floor repair.
6. When you repair something that has factory spot welds, you drill out the spot welds and..... mig weld, tig weld, bolt, rivet, bond or screw in the repair panel.

Bornco - Bartamos lays it out above. There is a chance cab was changed. No harm. Some like the high hump. The suburban (you provided as example) may have an entirely different arrangement - I need to research that some more. I had thought in the past, low and high humps could be interchanged with the correct filler panel.

Look at the ID number (VIN) on the plate in cab, carefully match to number on frame rail. Then look at the rivets on the ID number plate in cab. Are those rivets original or do they indicate the plate was removed and reattached.
As far as the carpet - you are squared. Need high hump.

I am sorry bartamos, I do not know how we came to this... I added pictures so if someone found this thread in the future, they could see the difference between a high and low hump in an early 60's model. The filer panel for a low hump is not interchangeable with a high hump and visa versa.

Thank you Hambone. I will look for the serial number on the frame rail and compare it. The rivets on the ID plate in the cab look to be factory. It would be interesting to see if they are different or match.

I am not sure I am comfortable with the hostility directed towards me on this thread. I was only trying to help out someone who might find this thread in a search. I am still grateful for the help in determining that my truck, that I have owned for over 25 years, has a high hump and wonder how I ordered a rubber floor mat in the past that actually fit. Go figure....

We were not on the same page, I guess. There is no hostility. We are supposed to start a new post when the subject changes. I will try to explain. It was unclear, I guess to me, what you were/are saying. It was inclear about what you meant by "not interchangeable". I thought you were saying a person is stuck with high or stuck with low hump floor. With no way to "change" from one to the other. The fact you have a high hump and 3 speed made me believe you would like to go low hump. I really don't know what you want to do with your situation. It does seem your cab came from the factory with a high hump. I don't know if your truck did. That is why I said "Don't know" to your question. The fact that others will see this is exactly why I'm staying connected.
So to whom it may concern:

1. The problem with the carpet is that poster did not realize he had a high hump floor with a column shift and ordered the wrong part. That is solved.
2. If a person wants to change from high hump to low or vice versa, you would detach the old and put in the new. A matching filler and trans cover would be necessary so that they "match". That is why I described the posters floor as having a high hump trans cover and "associated" firewall filler panel.
3. If we got off track we are now on track.
4. I hope there are no hard feelings. No one has done more work, written to ACC and explained more on this than me.
5. I though it was a request for help. Then I thought some confusing/erroneous info was being given.
6. This horse is dead now. Peace to Bornco.
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Since this thread has run it course, I’m locking this thread.