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| | Forums66 Topics126,780 Posts1,039,294 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 | Did the 1 ton trucks come with a 6 foot bed? Until I can figure out where all this info lives, (newbie here) I wanted to see what came with the truck. I would like to put a short bed on it.
1960 Chevy C10 gasser- Rabble Rouser 1953 Harley Davidson Panhead chopper
| | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 268 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2016 Posts: 268 | No 6ft bed on the 1ton. If it came with a bed from the factory it would have been the 9 foot bed. 1949 gmc 1-ton | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 268 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2016 Posts: 268 | Wheelbase on the 1ton is 137 inches.different than the smaller 1/2 and 3/4 trucks.frame is different also 1949 gmc 1-ton | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 | Did the 1 ton trucks come with a 6 foot bed? Until I can figure out where all this info lives, (newbie here) I wanted to see what came with the truck. I would like to put a short bed on it. HERE is where to look. Has lots of dimensional information. 1/2 ton trucks had a 116 inch wheelbase vs 137 inches for the 1 ton, so if you wanted to put a 1/2 ton (short) bed on it, you'd need to move the rear axle forward to get it at the same place in the fender openings as the 1/2 ton.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 | HERE is where to look. Has lots of dimensional information. 1/2 ton trucks had a 116 inch wheelbase vs 137 inches for the 1 ton, so if you wanted to put a 1/2 ton (short) bed on it, you'd need to move the rear axle forward to get it at the same place in the fender openings as the 1/2 ton. Actually, I did some searching on here and the HAMB and I am starting to warm up to the long bed.
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1960 Chevy C10 gasser- Rabble Rouser 1953 Harley Davidson Panhead chopper
| | | | Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,003 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,003 | There is a rumor that a gmc 1 ton truck in the AD years of 47-53 could have maybe come from the factory with a shorter 8 ft bed of the 3/4 ton as a custom order But I haven’t seen solid proof of it yet -s | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 |
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 |  Just to be clear, when we are talking about the Advance Design series, there is no such thing as a "Long" bed or a "short" bed. 3804's came with a 9-foot bed. It is neither "long" nor "short" it is simply the 1-ton bed, with 4 stake pockets on each side. And yes, it is WAY cooler than the 6-foot beds. I have done extensive research on this. What's not to warm up to?? 1-ton owners/drivers are universally regarded as the he-man stud muffins of the Stovebolt Universe and are skilled and talented at just about everything, ruggedly handsome with old-school charm, good dancers and fabulous bass fishermen. Children feel safe around us, women swoon at our approach and powerful men seek our advice. But wait, you ask. Aren't *you* also a 1-ton owner?? Yes, this is true. I *do* own a '49 3804. But that fact is entirely irrelevant as my study was done scientifically with blind studies, random sampling all to the highest professional standards, I assure you. I even reviewed the data myself. So be proud of your exalted status as a 1-ton owner. You are above most others (by a few inches -- you'll see when you park next to a 1/2-ton  ). 
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | All joking aside, an interesting comment was made a few weeks back and I can't remember who said or where ... It might have been Stovebolt HQ neighbor and past ATHS National President, John V at the Leonardtown Show ... ??))
But that the 9-ft bed was offered because most saw mills at the time only produced rough cut lumber to true dimensions. And 8 ft was a standard length. But it wasn't *exactly* 8 ft. It might vary a few inches (but never *less* than 8 ft). Thus, most of that standard 8-foot lumber would not fit in an 8-ft bed with the tailgate closed.
I have no idea as to the veracity of this. But it *is* an interesting thought.
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,003 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,003 | That’s why most of my trucks are 1 tons  | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Exactly, 2MT. Exactly!!
Harrumph!!
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,987 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,987 | Keep the 9' bed. Then put a bunch of weight in the back end of the bed. It'll make for prodigious wheelies.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,300 Moderator for Tons o' Fun , Co-Moderator Driveline Forum | Moderator for Tons o' Fun , Co-Moderator Driveline Forum Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,300 | But that the 9-ft bed was offered because most saw mills at the time only produced rough cut lumber to true dimensions. And 8 ft was a standard length. But it wasn't *exactly* 8 ft. It might vary a few inches (but never *less* than 8 ft). Thus, most of that standard 8-foot lumber would not fit in an 8-ft bed with the tailgate closed.I have no idea as to the veracity of this. But it *is* an interesting thought. This has been a most interesting and educational thread! Forced me to research the GM Heritage site and review the 1948 Truck Manual. Sure enough the inside measurement on the bed is 108 1/4 " or 9 foot and 1/4 inch! Looks like those folks at GM wanted to make sure a work truck could do its work.
Ron - - Dusty53 1954 Chevy 3604In the Gallery Forum "You can't dance with the Devil and then wonder why you're still in Hell." "They will forget what you've said, and they will forget what you have done but they will never forget the way you made them feel." | | | | Joined: May 2020 Posts: 29 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2020 Posts: 29 | TO John M. Hear! Hear! To the stud muffins. Also talking about 9’ beds. Your example of 8’ lumber needing a 9’ bed seems right since if you sold logs to a mill, an additional 6” is required to get 8’ lumber. Logs are cut 8’6”, 10’6” 12’6” etc. if you brought in a 10’ log you would be credited for only a 8’ log. Besides chainsaw cuts aren’t always square to the log so this also requires the extra length. The extra 6 inches allows for checking (splitting) as it dries and by trimming the ends square about 3” on each end you generally end up with a good board. Finally - I have a one ton but according to you I can dance! Didn’t know that.
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| | | | Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 | Well John, my chest certainly puffed out a bit after reading that. Looks like I am on the hunt for a 9 foot bed then.
1960 Chevy C10 gasser- Rabble Rouser 1953 Harley Davidson Panhead chopper
| | | | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,139 Authorized Pest | Authorized Pest Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,139 | Gasser, Are you game to build one. We've got a very interesting Tech Tip that may inspire you. Irwin's fight song: "Where’s the fun in that?"It's a 1959 1-ton and Irwin built a flatbed for it. 
~ Peggy M 1949 Chevrolet 3804"Charlie" - The Stovebolt FlagshipIn the Gallery || In the Gallery Forum"I didn't see this one coming. I don't see much of anything coming. :-O" | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Well John, my chest certainly puffed out a bit after reading that. Looks like I am on the hunt for a 9 foot bed then. As well it should  9-ft beds are a little hard to find (without a truck under them). But not impossible ... The bed sides can be fabricated from 1/2 or 3/4 ton sides. Same with the running boards and splash aprons. Somewhat difficult, but not impossible. However, for a nominal fee I can tell you where a couple of 1-tons (with very nice beds) hide (Billy Marlow's or Jim Schmidt's). On a moonless night, you could avail yourself of the five finger discount. Be sure to wrap your tools in rags so they don't clink and alert people to your presence. Bring a couple of steaks for Jim's rottweilers. Billy gets up pretty early so you'll have to work quickly to get 'er dun before Billy wakes up or the Rotts finish the steaks...
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2023 Posts: 26 | 9-ft beds are a little hard to find (without a truck under them). But not impossible ... The bed sides can be fabricated from 1/2 or 3/4 ton sides. Same with the running boards and splash aprons. Somewhat difficult, but not impossible.
However, for a nominal fee I can tell you where a couple of 1-tons (with very nice beds) hide (Billy Marlow's or Jim Schmidt's). On a moonless night, you could avail yourself of the five finger discount. Be sure to wrap your tools in rags so they don't clink and alert people to your presence. Bring a couple of steaks for Jim's rottweilers. Billy gets up pretty early so you'll have to work quickly to get 'er dun before Billy wakes up or the Rotts finish the steaks... Thanks for the tips! I am not above to bribing dogs or working in the dark for something I want. Maybe I will just message them first.  Right now, I am getting the OG drivetrain out to fund some hot rod drivetrain parts! As for making a bed, I am partial to the original style. I am thinking with some mods to a 6 foot bed, I could make a 9 foot.
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1960 Chevy C10 gasser- Rabble Rouser 1953 Harley Davidson Panhead chopper
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 292 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 292 |  Just to be clear, when we are talking about the Advance Design series, there is no such thing as a "Long" bed or a "short" bed. 3804's came with a 9-foot bed. It is neither "long" nor "short" it is simply the 1-ton bed, with 4 stake pockets on each side. And yes, it is WAY cooler than the 6-foot beds. I have done extensive research on this. What's not to warm up to?? 1-ton owners/drivers are universally regarded as the he-man stud muffins of the Stovebolt Universe and are skilled and talented at just about everything, ruggedly handsome with old-school charm, good dancers and fabulous bass fishermen. Children feel safe around us, women swoon at our approach and powerful men seek our advice. But wait, you ask. Aren't *you* also a 1-ton owner?? Yes, this is true. I *do* own a '49 3804. But that fact is entirely irrelevant as my study was done scientifically with blind studies, random sampling all to the highest professional standards, I assure you. I even reviewed the data myself. So be proud of your exalted status as a 1-ton owner. You are above most others (by a few inches -- you'll see when you park next to a 1/2-ton  ).  I didn't really think that I was a stud muffin but if John says so then that's what I am!  | | | | Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,987 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,987 | I didn't really think that I was a stud muffin but if John says so then that's what I am!  I guess John should know.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
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