I was backing in my 46 COE into the barn after driving it 22 miles Saturday. It killed and wouldn't start, If I choked it it would run a little but the second I pushed the choke in it would kill. I kept trying several times to get it to run enough to get it in the barn. Then it fixed itself! Any idea what was going on? (Of course it has a updraft carb. being a COE).
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How much time did it take to start again? About 20 minutes? What you describe could be a bad coil starting to fail Insufficient spark at low voltage (starting) and hot (after 22 miles) I had a similar problem and the new coil was the solution. -s
Debris in the tank, failing fuel pump, bad filters, clogged lines.
Martin '62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress) '47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project) ‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily) ‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence) “I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one! Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop! USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)
Clogged fuel lines and crap in the fuel tank getting sucked into the fuel pickup always fix themselves. That is until the same piece of debris moves to a new spot or gets sucked up again.
Blow out your fuel lines (with gas cap off). Pull your fuel sending unit and see what's what. Look into the fuel tank and see if there is rust or dead leaves or whatever in there.
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1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Had a vehicle back in my racing days that had a rather loud exhaust. The old lady across the street had the Police on speed dial so every time I started it up she would call. They never caught me so late one night she snuck across the street and put a couple of handfuls of grass clippings in the gas tank. I could drive for about 10 minutes until some of it got within sucking range of the fuel outlet. The car would die and the debris would float away from the pickup and it would start again. Took me the better part of one afternoon at the race track to figure it out and fix it. Check your fuel flow.
Martin '62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress) '47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project) ‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily) ‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence) “I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one! Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop! USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)
No, filters will not impact flow to a noticeable amount.
Martin '62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress) '47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project) ‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily) ‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence) “I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one! Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop! USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)
Where is the best place to get a fuel pump for my 1962 235? I've been to all the auto stores and they all say they have it, BUT it's not the same. The bolts barely stick out of the flange. I know I purchased one 12 years ago when I put the motor together.
Do you just need longer bolts? Maybe it's just the flange that's thicker.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Is your current pump rebuildable? If so, send it to Then and Now Automotive. Call them and find out.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Rockauto has multiple choices. If you haven't order the one from Amazon yet you might compare prices and brands. Hopefully you can find one not made in China.
All these show as mechanical pumps
Carter - $16.53 single action pump Delphi - $37.79 with 2 line pump US Motor Works - $65.79 Includes strainer Carter with combination fuel & vaccum pump for vacuum wipers - Out of stock
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Found a rebuilt fuel pump on Ebay, (AC-4434) that fixed it. All the local auto stores including NAPA that said yes we have one, didn't fit. The one I found on amazon didn't fit. Big retailers that sell parts and don't have a certain part just click the computer and say (yes we do). They were all were handing me a pump for a small block V 8. Big companies don't care about being right any more!!!
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
The June 1971 Trucks Parts Listing has the 4434 (stamped) GM part number 6415726. Attached is a picture of a factory rebuilt pump 24434. In 1979 the pump is stamped 40217 and GM continues using the same part number. Attached is a picture of a NOS 40217. The pump looks different, has a top that's crimped on and the base is thicker and requires longer screws. These pumps are now HISTORY and a smart person would look for good original pumps to have for back-up. Don't depend on FLAPS and online stores which now carry new reproduction pumps from Asia.
Just because a pump is rebuilt or NOS doesn't mean the pump is fit for modern Ethanol gasoline. It's up to you to find out before you buy.
"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use." "I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
The second pump you have pictured will not work on my 1962 235. Even if you use longer bolts the spread is not the same and the pump lever is not the same. I was told the 40217# was a Airtex and the 4434# was a AC, I have one of each now, one bad one good, they use different rebuild kits. I previously used Ethanol in my truck, that's probably what undid my pump.
