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So it’s definitely the engine up to the clutch that’s producing this vibration. Any thoughts on what the cause may be?
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Take the fan belt off & try it. It could be in the fan or pulleys. Check the Harmonic balancer. It might be loose or the rubber has deuterated. If not one of these, remove the flywheel cover & see if something might be broken off. Be shure the trans. to bell housing bolts are tight.
George
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They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 789 Former BMW Rider | | Former BMW Rider Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 789 | Another source of vibrations in the AD are the engine mounts. Especially, the front engine mount. If the front engine mount is too tight it can transmit vibrations from the frame to the steering wheel and the cab. The 1948 to 1951 Chevrolet Truck Shop Manual outlines the engine mount inspection process in Chapter 6. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,848 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,848 | So the vibration goes away when you coast in neutral at 40 but will come back when you gun the engine in neutral?
I'd look at your flywheel along with the other things mentioned.
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1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,504 Moderator, Electrical Bay | | Moderator, Electrical Bay Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,504 | Also check your pressure plate, Phil. I had a bad one in a GTO in the 70s that acted the same way. I could get the same effect by putting the car in neutral (sitting still) and raising the rpm to about 2500. Once I replaced the pressure plate all was Jake. Good luck.
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 | So the vibration goes away when you coast in neutral at 40 but will come back when you gun the engine in neutral? Yes, that is correct.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 | Another source of vibrations in the AD are the engine mounts. Especially, the front engine mount. If the front engine mount is too tight it can transmit vibrations from the frame to the steering wheel and the cab. The 1948 to 1951 Chevrolet Truck Shop Manual outlines the engine mount inspection process in Chapter 6. That was my first thought. Shortly after installing the engine, I removed the front mount and machined extra clearance in the mounts to insure they weren’t hitting. I don’t believe that is the issue.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Also look at The rear mounts under the bell housing. Often they have been soaking in oil all these years & there is no rubber left in them.
George They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 | Also look at The rear mounts under the bell housing. Often they have been soaking in oil all these years & there is no rubber left in them.
George The rear engine mounts are new.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,848 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,848 | The rear engine mounts are new. "New" used to mean something. Not any more.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,826 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,826 | The most likely source of an RPM-specific vibration would be the flywheel and/or clutch cover. An inline six is inherently balanced, due to the 120 degree separation of the connecting rod journals and counterweights. When machine shops spin-balance those crankshafts they don't even have to use "bob weights" to simulate the weight of the piston and rod assemblies like a V8 crank needs. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 340 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 340 | I put a new clutch assembly in a 1967 chevy C10. It had no vibration when driving before the work and after almost shock my teeth loose after the install. I took it all apart and had the flywheel and clutch assembly balanced, they removed 43 grams off the flywheel, after that smooth as glass. That's after trying two different clutch assemblies. Thankfully it was only about an hour to remove everything.
1936 GMC T-14 restro-mod
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,486 | Thank you all for your suggestions. I think this one will have to waIt until spring. Running out of time as we fly (actually drive ) south for the winter after the holidays. I will remove the fan belt though, as that would be a simple elimination.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | |
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