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#1475365 11/15/2022 9:55 PM
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My 1954 235 rochester carb was rebuilt in 2019 but today was gushing fuel while running. Besides rebuilding again what other bolts options out there in stock? Heard the carter Yf carbs are better than commonly leaky Rochester…….but can’t find them anywhere instock


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I switched to a Daytona carb for my 235 and am very happy with it.


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"The ABC's of fuel systems- - - - -Always Buy Carter!" Daytona carbs make good paperweights, ay least until they get their first taste of gasoline. Then they become stinky paperweights!
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I’m fine with buying a carter but can’t find any in stock that fit. Anyone have a source?


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Go to "The Carburetor Shop" website. Jon has a very accurate list of the Carter carbs that fit stovebolt engines, both OEM and Rochester replacement types. Then go shopping on Ebay and elsewhere for "rebuildable cores" of the right number. Jon also manufactures the best Carter rebuilding kits on the market, so don't get suckered into buying a "one size fits none" generic kit. Be sure to get a vintage carb to work with- - - - -Carter "clone" carbs made offshore are worse than useless. If I'm remembering correctly, those Daytona universal-fit clones of a Holley carb are made in Brazil, so they have the same kind of issues.
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Both Carter and Stromberg made aftermarket replacement carburetors that are very close to bolt on swaps for the 235.

The carbs for trucks came with manual choke, the carbs for passenger came with automatic choke (hot air on the Carter, electric on the Stromberg).

Either the Carter or the Stromberg should be available as a rebuildable core, but finding a rebuilt unit may be challenging, and having seen some of the "rebuilt" carbs being offered, I would want to buy one for LESS than the price of a core, UNLESS I knew the rebuilder.

As to the other imitation unit mentioned in this thread, I disagree with Jerry. These REALLY are useful...........................................IF you have a rabbit problem in your garden, and a strong right arm wink

And Jerry.........you are just plain wrong wink in calling them clones. If you check your dictionary, you will find a "clone" is an EXACT reproduction! These things are imitations!

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As usual, you missed the quotation marks around the word clone. "Paperweight" is probably the correct term.
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Originally Posted by Mako1975
My 1954 235 rochester carb was rebuilt in 2019 but today was gushing fuel while running. Besides rebuilding again what other bolts options out there in stock? Heard the carter Yf carbs are better than commonly leaky Rochester…….but can’t find them anywhere instock
If your B was working fine prior to it suddenly gushing, it may be an easy fix. The easiest fix is tapping on the side of the carburetor with a box end wrench near where the float pin is. This may not be a permanent fix, but it will lead you to what to do next, such as opening up the carburetor and making sure that the float isn't contacting the side of the bowl, or that there isn't a piece of trash keeping the float needle from contacting the seat. Also shake the float to make sure that it doesn't have gas inside of it.


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Ran fine, only noticed because pulled over to check something else. Used free tow just to be safe since pouring on exhaust but was certainly driveable


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Check the parts for sale on here.

I also saw a Carter YF 966S and Carter YF 2100S for sale on E-Pay...just get a "Quality rebuild" kit and you should be good to go..easy swap.

Good luck.
I run the 966S on my 1957 235 engine...LOVE IT!!

Like Jerry said: A B C ....

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Any carb will act up if you get a piece of foreign material in the needle & seat. I,m with Carl. The Roch. may be an easy fix.
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OReillys still has listing for the tomco which is I think is rebuilt carter parts but you may get lucky or will have to check there rebuild work but they should have warranty .Also you may have a hard time finding one in stock but some of the prices of the ones are getting up there.
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That picture does actually look like a rebuilt Carter instead of one of the Chinese fakes. If anything, it might serve as a rebuildable core with the proper Carbking kit.


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Try to order one>>>Out-of-stock.

11 year old Stovebolt posting
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/714673
Disregard link by "wasat again" (not for 235)


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"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
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I have used several to many daytona carburetors over the years,maybe 10 or so on various 6 cylinder vehicles and even forklifts, and have not had any issues with them. I would like to know any specific issues to look out for. The only thing I have noticed is that they don't seem to need a lot of choking when starting most times, maybe they are set kind of "fat" to start off with. I have actually met and talked to Ron at Daytona and he is a wealth of knowledge about carbs & fuel systems, and doesn't mind sharing his knowledge.

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"I would like to know any specific issues to look out for."

Here is some info to use when you talk to Ron. See pages 7 and 9 at https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1341243

The engine (261 cubic inch) has less power hauling a load than the previous carburetor (Rochester) and 5 to 10 percent less horsepower at the top end.

It would be very helpful if Ron could provide HP/torque/CI graphs of the testing Daytona has performed on their UN2 equipped engines.
It could be that, on our stovebolt engines, the Daytona UN2 is decent on a 216, superior (or as good) on a 235 but only tolerable on a 261.

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"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."

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