Will a 6 volt regulator meet the requirements of an 8 volt battery? I have an 8 volt battery in my 54 rebuild simply because I had a good one on hand. My 6v generator motors like a top when current is applied. When running, the ammeter discharges with load but shows no charging with rpms. Jumper from ground to field terminal on the VR and ammeter shows normal operation. Is the VR simply bad or what?
~~ Jethro 1954 3100 Back to Life In the Dity Gallery 1951 3100 (gone) / 1956 4400 (still in the neighborhood) / 1957 6400 with dump body (retired) / 1959 3100 panel (in the woods junked) / 1978 Custom Deluxe K10 / 1993 S-10 4.3 / 2004 Chevy Crew Cab / 1945 John Deere H / 1952 John Deere B / 1966 John Deere 2510 / 1967 John Deere 1020
An 8 volt battery is a solution looking for a problem. Have someone who knows what he's doing adjust the cutout relay to 8.25 volts and the voltage control points to 9.5 volts against a fully charged battery with the engine running at 1500 RPM. Then buy a case of headlight bulbs. I'd choose to trash the 8V battery. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
My thoughts... we went to 8v on 2cyl JD's and had to trash the VR and use a turned-up cut-out. FLAP said it would work fine. Had my doubts and seems they were real. I'll put the 8v back on the JD B. Thanks... Jethro.
~~ Jethro 1954 3100 Back to Life In the Dity Gallery 1951 3100 (gone) / 1956 4400 (still in the neighborhood) / 1957 6400 with dump body (retired) / 1959 3100 panel (in the woods junked) / 1978 Custom Deluxe K10 / 1993 S-10 4.3 / 2004 Chevy Crew Cab / 1945 John Deere H / 1952 John Deere B / 1966 John Deere 2510 / 1967 John Deere 1020
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
[quote=Otto Skorzeny]It's over twice the price of the non-USA made version- - - - - -
The fact that they don't show any internal detail makes me wonder if that is some sort of electronic regulator dressed up to look like a contact point type. The "it can't recharge a dead battery" warning makes me very suspicious of the internal construction. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
OK- - - - -then they're just lying about "won't recharge a dead battery"! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
Ya, I thought that was an odd phrase to use. It's not like you would put a dead battery in a car and then try to charge it back up by running the engine.
I understand on a lightly discharged battery say from leaving the radio on or something you could jump start it and drive somewhere and the battery would normally be charged up.
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1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
The current regulator is there to prevent the generator from damaging itself from overcurrent while recharging a dead, or severely low battery. It would require several hundred miles of driving without restarting the engine, but there's no reason a good condition generator/regulator system would not be able to bring a dead battery back up to full charge. That disclaimer is only there to give the manufacturer an out in case their barely-adequate materials and production processes happen to fail under load. There are plenty of real Delco-Remy regulators out there that are either still functional, or can be cleaned up and adjusted to OEM specifications. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
Well fellas... I got a 6v battery from my FLAP and the ammeter shows charging. Put the 8v back in the old B. I knew better.
~~ Jethro 1954 3100 Back to Life In the Dity Gallery 1951 3100 (gone) / 1956 4400 (still in the neighborhood) / 1957 6400 with dump body (retired) / 1959 3100 panel (in the woods junked) / 1978 Custom Deluxe K10 / 1993 S-10 4.3 / 2004 Chevy Crew Cab / 1945 John Deere H / 1952 John Deere B / 1966 John Deere 2510 / 1967 John Deere 1020
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
bartamos "or what" is right !! It amazes me the expense and trouble builders will go to to avoid the modern equipment GM engineers have gone to the trouble to design. Other brands have enough wiring for a computer bot don't mind using a 1-wire Delco alt. The HEI one wire plug it in,maybe 2 with a tach !! Shish !!
Jethro in Virginia We went thru the 8 volt battery trick 60 years ago,wouldn't work then either. I'm just glad you don't have to wonder if your cut--out relay opened when you are walking away any more. Those slippery GM engineers fixed all of that when they turned the charging circuits around and stopped running heavy amperage thru brushes. Now you can carry all of your charging troubles over to your bench in one package--save bad cable connections or cables!!
Waveski Don't you have those children punching the computer in Wisconsin at your local parts store ?? We sure do,have one old timer left who if he can't find it for you ...your out of luck !! Just stocked up on alt. and starter small parts not long ago should get me thru my final truck fixen years !!
