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#1473194 10/30/2022 7:14 PM
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Might be a dumb question, but how do i remove the rear wheels and drums on my 59 2 1/2 ton? Tried removing the inner lugs and they just spun. Am I screwed or is there a trick?
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59 chevy Spartan 100, former firetruck
348ci with spicer 5 speed and electric rear
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The Dayton rims are held on by the 5 nuts and wedges. Back the nuts off, but DO NOT REMOVE THEM. Once the nuts are backed off hit the tire with a 10# sledge hammer to pop the wedges free, they are under a lot of pressure and will fly off with force if you remove the nuts. After all of the wedges are loose, remove the nuts and wedges and slide the rim/tire off.

To take the hub/drum off you have to remove the axle and remove the hub nuts.

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Ok, finally found it in my book, gotta completely disassemble the hub. New question is what are the torque specs for all the nuts? The lug nuts i believe are 450-500 but is that the hub to drum or the ones that lock the rim on?

Edit: youre quick mike! Thanks!

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DO not torque your lug nuts to 450-500 ft lbs you will break of stretch the studs. Dayton type rims should be installed using hand tools only...a 3/4 breaker bar will be all you need. Depending on stud size you could be anywhere from 80 to 200 ft lbs on dry lugs.

For the hub to drum bolts look the torque up based on the bolt size.

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Well thats easier. What is the 450-500 ft lbs for then? Disk type wheels?


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Yes, torque spec for the Budd wheel lug nuts is 500 lbs.


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Anyone got a part number for the axle flange gasket? The inner oil seal wouldnt hurt just in case I damage it too.


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I don't have a part number but was able to get the number off the old seal and match it. I made the axle shaft gaskets.


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MattMCK When you put those on for keeps have em so you can spin em to see if their stralght,sneak up on em with your impact. Gotta watch when you take those off cause they can shoot you as mike says !!

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Different brands of seal with same PN have different configurations on some, on my 630 I got same mfg. to fit properly!

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Is there a trick to getting the tapered nuts out? Got them out once but i gotta do it again and they have been a pain every time. Dont wanna have to heat them and beat on the flange with a sledge again.


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Originally Posted by MattMcK
Is there a trick to getting the tapered nuts out? Got them out once but i gotta do it again and they have been a pain every time. Dont wanna have to heat them and beat on the flange with a sledge again.

Matt, I think we might need a little more info...exactly what tapered nuts are you talking about??? A picture of what you're working on would also help so we give you good advise...

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The twelve ones that hold the axle flange in. Guess they are actually called tapered dowels.


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To loosen the tapered dowels you need to strike the center of the axle cap with a heavy lead hammer (a big no bounce might work). You might then be able to spread the dowel with a thin screwdriver and wiggle them out.

I always carry a pair of "jamb nuts" in my tool box (not enough thread sticking out for regular nuts to be jambed together) for the stubborn ones...put the nuts on the stud and lock them together, then unscrew the entire stud like a bolt.

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Will a lead hammer or deadblow make that big a difference vs the 12lb sledge ive been trying? I might have to give the jamb nut trick a shot.


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If your 12# sledge won't vibrate it loose you need to pull the studs...been there, done that!

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