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I have a 235 and I want to get the exhaust manifold ceramic coated because my alternator keeps going out and I think it is because of the heat. My alternator is right above the manifold, and I tested it with a thermometer and the alternator got to 160F. My concern is the manifold will not get hot enough to cause the thermostatic spring to close the flange that put exhaust on the bottom side of the carb to warm the gas during the initial starting up phase when the engine is still cold. Does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this problem, thanks?
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 | 160F isn't really hot and certainly well within the range that an alternator can tolerate.
300F is around the temperature that an alternator starts having problems.
Your alternator should be able to run indefinitely at 160F.
You have another problem causing your alternator to fail, in my opinion.
Last edited by Otto Skorzeny; 08/03/2022 12:10 PM.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,228 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,228 | The spring will still work with manifold coatings, none of them insulate so good the spring won't relax. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,450 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,450 | Mike Bell Check your battery voltage to see if alternator is overcharging. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,433 Crusty Old Sarge | | Crusty Old Sarge Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,433 | If this becomes an electrical question you need to move it to The Electrical Bay.
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 | Help with the alternator problem? No.
Help reduce underhood temps? Probably, at least a little.
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1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,851 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,851 | An aluminum shield will do a lot more to deflect heat away from the alternator than spending a ridiculous amount of money on ceramic coating. I've seen underhood temps well over 200 degrees on a summer day, so the idea that heat is causing the alternator problems doesn't make good nonsense. Try using a remote BBQ thermometer under the hood and measure the temp while you're driving down the road with plenty of air flowing- - - -it should be a lot lower. The new remote I've started using while smoking pork butts will transmit up to 90 feet, and I'm already thinking up ways to make use of it for diagnosing automotive problems. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,228 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,228 | The better heading coatings available will help cool the manifold, but it needs to be coated inside and out. But wait, now you also need to coat the exhaust pipe because all the heat from the exhaust will now radiate out though the pipe. Header wrap will also keep heat heat in, but you will need a couple of manifolds due to the heat cracking and warping of the extra hot manifold. Headers do the same thing if when street driven. A simple air duct will do more for cooling the alternator then the coatings would. | | |
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