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well i still could buy the 68 c-50 or 60 i know of locally for cheap= what the 327 is worth alone

real good running 2bbl 327, 4 speed, no bed, real short wheelbase, was owned by one of the IL State College in Champaign near here, i dont know what they may have used it for with such a short wheel base,
crappy tires, brakes spongy,
good body with new rockers done,
good glass,
complete truck other than the bed,
drives,
no title, was lost years ago,
i guess the college lost it, not sure, no one knows, i could probably bond it, ill have ot get a hold of the college maintainence dept first and give them the VIN and pic of the truck and job some memories,

would you buy it, if so then why and what would you do with it

one thing i dont like about it is that it has those HUGE 5 lug bolt clamp style wheel hubs like the big school buses have

bolt clamp type wheels(technical name)?

im scared of those

its really heavy GVRW,
and is NOT the regular lighter normal style wheels like these: http://www.candhtruck.com/chtruckdb/TruckDetails.aspx?iCID=3&iID=1182

i was probably gonna buy it for the engine and maybe 465 trans too, and part the body and chassis and such

dunno


thanks for anything, ideas, comments, suggestions, etc


for anything

The wheel type you are speaking of I believe is a spoke type that uses a stud mounted clamp to attach the rim to the spider/wheel. I've owned several like that and have never had a moments problem with any of them. They are very common in the Midwest and east where you are located. When mounting them it is important to hold a straight edge up to the tire while rotating it to get them evenly clamped so they run straight.
If the wheel base is really short it may have had a dumpbody on it. If the frame is bobbed off just past the rear springhanger then it likely did.

The wheel is called a Dayton. Most of the Chevy trucks used a budd wheel. I would guess you could have ordered it with either in a C-series. Most of the time you see Daytons on trucks with air brakes.

Those wheels also used to be known as "East coast wheels" by truckers-no idea why. They're actually not too bad to work with;it only takes a little practice to learn to "true your wheel on the hub so it'll track smooth and straight.
I've noticed a few of 'em on farm trucks and logging trucks out on the left coast too.
Speed

It's a GVW thing! Those wheels used on heavier trucks. You say it has heavy GVW. Dayton wheels is correct name of this style. Short frame could have been a "tractor" or as said, small dump. I have an IH rated at 26,000 GVW, it has those wheels. Just happens to be air brakes, BUT, I have had standard brakes on some GMC's I once owned with same wheels. One thing that is diff on this type, is use of a spacer between the rear duals. One wheel is turned around, slips way on hub, put on a spacer, then outer wheel just slips a small distance onto the hub. There is a bumped up rim on one side for the lugs to catch on.
Probly value in engine if a runner, but hard to sell big truck axles or chassis parts. BTDT, or tried I should say. Ended up cutting up for scrap! Cost more in torch gas than I got in scrap price! Body should be same in many ways as smaller trucks, maybe dash gauges and floor pan are diff for heavier usage trucks.

thats pretty wild, good to learn, good info

how bad is it going about getting new tires for these suckers ?

will i have a heart attack when i hear the price on them or ?

yeah the frame rails are basically bobbed right after the rear hangers, well a little ways back but not much past them


thanks

hmm air brakes,

you know, i dont think its air brake, but im not positive, he didnt say anything about air brakes, and i dont believe i saw air units on the rear axle, hmm
but its still possible i suppose
you hardly ever see budd wheels on the big bolts here, its rare to see them on anything over 1 ton, but on the internet it seems to be the total opposite, all you see are pics of budd wheel trucks

soo hmm

dayton, hum odd name, sounds like a weak name for such a heavy looking design

odd..


thanks

nice good more info wow appreciated

yeah the cab and doors are the same as the small trucks except for the front bottom corner cut off at angle, like usual


im just stuck on what to do, or if i should get this one or not, and if i do then what i should do with it,

i looked up the 50 series `68 chevy 327 2bbl engine specs and wow 280 net torque rating, dang i like that, more than the 70s crappy smog 350 engines and such,
but i still would hate to just buy the 68 for parts etc, but if i kept it then id have to find new tires and get paperwork figured out on it and it has no bed, but new rockers so a nice cab and such, and well it runs and drives

but then scrap metal is up to 100 or 125 a ton nowadays currently and so i could get a good 2/3 of my $ right back out of it after yanking the 327 and some of the 4 speed parts and some interior/body stuff

but... hate to do that to it, but thats what the guy who has the truck now is gonna end up doing to it, so..

a dilemma,

hum

cant make up my mind,

earlier today i came within a few blocks away from it and almost stopped to give hi the $ for it and then i didnt, just kept on driving


what to do, hmmm

if i knew i could get good tires for it without having to win the lottery then id probably keep it as a work truck,
but.,,.


thanks for anything else

at least i learned some interesting info

If you like the truck, get it! Don't let tires stop you...the 20" tires are still VERY common and finding used ones that still have life shouldn't be hard. Check with your local school bus maintenance garage, they may have some good "take-off's" they will sell for the core price.

Good luck!

Mike B

yeah tires are the biggest thing im concerned about, any ideas what an average price range on at least good used ones would cost ? each ? six ?

im actually way more concerned about finding good tires than i am the paperwork and lost title work :o

thanks

I just bought a set of six from a guy for $200.00, all in very good shape. He had to upgrade to a different size because of his wheels. Go to your local co-op or bus barn and see what's available. Once you buy some tires for these old trucks, they'll last us many years so it's like a one time investment. Don't be afraid of Daytons, it's just another way of doing it,
Scott

hell yeah

im having a tree cut down here and they are using a baby blue 1971 chevy C60 to haul off the tree stuff,

i checked it all out and its an air brake dayton 20" wheel 366 gas one

that air unit instead of a hydraulic master cylinder is sure wild looking lol


very cool! i like it, drooooool!

i want it!

im gonna have to get that 68 one, hmm

the RPO code list on these big bolts is sure odd

for the 366 engine the code just says ENGINE lol

has 23,000lb rear springs

11,000 front something

they put an edelbrock carb on the truck, not very old of one, looks like a 1406 carb

wish i had a digicam

just bought the 68

should be here friday


it looks identical to this one on ebay except for no bed on it, but same color and year and tires/wheels and all:


[img]http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/81/67/f9_1.JPG[/img]

Nice truck Fast68! Got a '72 C60 myself. Click below to see it. Show some pics when you get a chance.


http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2600/491bchevy25wz.jpg

whisperer, hey that ones nice even more, whats it got in it for drivetrain and such?
that is identical to the 71 one parked outside of here right now lol
i want that dump bed


lookin good

yeah eventually ill have pics, but probably not any sooner than a couple weeks or so

thanks :p

Hey Fast68, My truck has a 366 with a Clark 5 speed and an Eaton 2speed rear. It also has air brakes. If you need any info for yours I might can help. Just let me know.
David

Way to go,Fast68! I'll bet you won't regret buting it. I sure miss my ol' 66 C-60! Have fun with it!
Speed

hum got a problem, its been sitting and everything, for a while and well the rear end wont turn, its frozen, i suppose its the brakes

trying to figure out how to move it

hmm...


:o


still cant complain though, did buy it just for what the engine alone is worth and it runs good, so..

and i saw on the sticker that it has 24k axle listed

i see what you mean by the spacer deal in between the wheels

pretty wild

its like 5" thick

cast iron it looks like

wonder if it could get a later years rear axle for it, like from a 70s model C-50 or 60, if they kept the same leaf pad spacing ??
it is 40" pad spacing

i assume this is an eaton axle, it sure looks like one, but huge,

anyone know ?


thanks

You might try to get the axle to move before replacing it. Be sure to grease your front bearings if it's been a while. Check the dope in the rear axle and it may need some tugging to loosen the rear wheels. It's according to how long the truck has set I guess. Hope this helps some.

David

yeah its sat for quite a long time, couple years maybe a little more, not sure, also i wonder about the transmission parking brake

hmm

we are gonna fool around with it later this morning with a 3/4 ton truck and try to loosen it up maybe, or something

how do you go about greasing the frot bearings, is there a grease zerk, or do you have to do it like on light duty vehicles ?

what about the rears ?

thanks!

you know what it was just sticky, drove it to here,

in the cab on the floor were boxes of wheel cylinders and stuff, and a master cylinder, i cant tell if they are new or old, so rusty,

hmm

on the doors i can tell where it had a big symbol and it said for official use only, apparently it was a state truck or government truck at one time also, i gotta get a hold of the IL state college, i found a couple papers of when they bought the truck in 82,

gotta trace paperwork back and get replacement title, or im gonna have to bond it out with a judge, so i can title it


hmm

thanks

Hey Fast68,
On my truck I have to pack the front bearings with grease by hand. Easy to do on pavement with a tire jack on rollers, otherwise it is a pain. It's got to be done though.

David