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I have just purchased one of the old self cancelling blinker controls that has the rubber wheel. I would like to know how well they work. I am going to use it even if that part doesn't work for me because it is such a cool looking old part.

I have one of those, but I haven't tried to make it work. They depend on good traction between the rubber wheel and the steering wheel hub. Likely the rubber has turned rock hard and won't get good traction. If you can find some way to freshen up the rubber it should work. Maybe a large fat o-ring to replace the "tire" on the wheel.

I remember more of them not working then working even when they were new. It was probably more of a sales premotion then anything else.
Jim

I'm just installing one on a Willys truck. They are Sparton. They adjust in and out, and of course you slide the unit up and down the column to get just the right contact with wheel hub. They work nice. Had a hard time finding a 6/7 wire. Most are 4.

I have used them through the years & they work pretty slick. It seems they cancel too quick with just a small movement of the steering wheel.

George

No sense messing with an outdated design. If 12v do a search for self cancelling ELECTRONIC turn signal. About $70 0n Amazon and ebay or ten bucks off a junked Kawasaki motor cycle. We make up a stem to mount on column in normal position or you can use a right and left momentary switch button (like a motorcycle).

I've looked at the Signal Dynamics style units before and having to rig up buttons. Even for me, who is not exactly a purest, that is way too far off and funky for an old truck. I would rather try to remember to place lever back to middle or use the wheel type. When you are driving an old truck you tend to remember it.

I had used one I installed on a 50 1/2 ton. I didn't expect it to work but surprisingly it did.
I recall the rubber wheel needs to be uniform (no worn spots) and flexible.
I had more trouble with the old switch lubricant that had dried up.

I did have a hard time finding one with the wheel and 7 wires. The one that I bought is an old Allstate one. It is really cool looking. It has the Allstate logo over an outline of the United States.

Post a picture of it.

This is the blinker control that I bought. I really like the look of it, so much history there.

I have trained myself to turn off the turn signal after the turn is completed so I don’t have to worry about a wheel having traction.

ED

I used to be trainable, but not so much anymore.

truckernix, that is a cool item. I'd install it.

Truckernix,
Seeing this post reminds me, my truck came with one of those!
I will have to dig it up. I do not remember if it had any cool All-State type logos on it. It was mounted on my steering column but it was not wired up.
-T

Here's a couple pix of the AutoLamp 9000 4-wire turn signal that I have.

Notice that the rubber wheel is pretty torn up. It looks like it would be very difficult to restore that rubber. I took a video of how the self-cancelling works, but can't post it here. If Anyone is interested, PM me and I can e-mail it.

Here is the one that came with my truck.
Marked "Guide 6004" looks like originally black but has green over- spray on it.
Wheel seems good. But I do not have turn signals on the truck so I can't test it per say.
-T

Wrenchbender The ones I have had cancelled pretty quick too,Guide works fine but you do forget it at times. I think the 55-2nd and newer can be put on older columns so you have self cancel.

I thought I was going to have to rig up a monitor bulb because I didn’t see a little jewel lens on it. It turns out that there is a bulb inside and the little sign is translucent. I took the switch apart to clean it up and get it working. I was successful but I had quite the time with the tiny parts and springs.

I am going to try and restore the wheel some but I may try and replace it, I was just in a hardware store and got an electrical socket with a big rubber outside cover. Part of it is almost an exact copy of the wheel rubber with a great feel to it.

I was able to cut the top of the rubber from this light socket and make a nice new wheel for my self cancelling signal control. Once I cut the piece off, it looked like it was made to order for the application.

So I now have one Allstate unit working correctly. I have installed it on my 38 Chev and I will put one on my truck when I get another one working correctly. It works so well that it gives the same experience as a built in unit. I wondered if that was actually possible and apparently it is.