Ok that explains it. You can try vinegar or powdered citrus acid from bulk store mixed with hot water .although don’t know if I would put it in past the seal as I am not sure if it effects the rubber
So here's why I have for flywheel bolts; far right off 216, rough, looks like they've been reused before. Middle off a 235, little mangled, but probably useable. Left, bolts with star washers off 261.
Thoughts?
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The bolts with the 2-bolt keepers get buggered up because the bent up tabs on the keepers prevent the socket from seating fully on the bolt head. But any of them are probably fine to use. Your keepers look about like mine did. But they at least had an intact corner to bend up to keep the bolt from backing out. But the locktite is the first line of defense against that happening.
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I was thinking star washers and locktite. Better than original...
Whatever holds the flywheel in place. I'm not a fan of star washers. Modern flywheel bolts (as in my 7.3L diesel) use no lock washers, just a flat ring under all the bolts.
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So, looking at installing the water pump, but need the generator bracket installed at the same time. The 261 came with the top bracket and the 216 the bottom:
I'm assuming with relocating the water pump, I will want to use the 216 bracket. Will the slight difference in the bottom mounts affect the belt size?
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For exhaust studs, I have new, do I double-nut them to install? Or is there a trick to getting studs in? I figure easier to do on the bench then on the motor...
Never seen one with studs ,the ones I have used are bolts .I would clean out the threads in the block. Here is what I have on mine picture from chev of the 40;s along with the metal wings to bolt them down
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Yes, double nutting is the way to install them. I might put the manifold on the engine first instead of trying to wrestle the manifold on the workbench. But either way would work.
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Locktite is probably not needed. Rust molecules will perform that function. I think the exhaust heat will destroy the locktite anyway.
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Looks to me like the generator needs to move back a bit. You can see the back edge of the crank pulley (red arrow). Unless the generator mount bolts are a sloppy fit and it's not aligned straight with the crankshaft axis. Also looks like you should have repaired the radiator mount point as well (yellow arrow). There should be two distinct holes there. Looks like it has broken out over the years.
Originally Posted by Goach2
Torque requirements for intake to exhaust?
Not called out in the service manual. Go by the size of the fasteners (probably in the 12-15 ft-lb range).
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Bolts were all loose, but I will keep an eye on that when I do final assembly. I'm waiting on a rad support as mine was broken. I will fix the cross-member when I have the proper holes to align.
For these gaskets, they don't line up all that great, should I be trying them back, out of the port? If so, what would be best to do this? Steel reinforced gaskets...
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For the bolt holes in the crossmember, the FAM has dimensions for them. I needed to fix mine as well, and used those figures to get them patched up correctly.
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You may have to take the manifolds and get them resurfaced so they're flat across the ports. Check with a straightedge (carpenter's square, etc.) Do you have the intake to exhaust bolts torqued? If so, you should loosen them and try again. They should be tightened after the manifold to head bolts are snugged up.
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I had the guide rings in the manifold, took it off and put them in the block instead and it worked. Still have to figure out how to torque the inside bolts since my torque wrench won't fit in there.
Still have to figure out how to torque the inside bolts since my torque wrench won't fit in there.
If you mean the manifold to block bolts, you can use an extension on a torque wrench.
Good that you got the manifolds seated correctly.
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As long as the angle isn't too far off straight, a swivel socket will work. I just checked my manifolds and I see that the intake is in the way of a straight extension. You could use a box wrench and judge the torque by comparing with the other bolts. Or use a spring scale on the end of the wrench. The spec for the center clamp bolts is 15-20 ft-lbs, so 15-20 lb of force on a foot long box wrench would be correct. Or 30-40 lb on a 6-inch long wrench.
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Teflon tape works. Just be careful not to wrap it past the inner end of the male threads. Or you can use a good pipe dope rated for gas and oil.
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Dorman has a assortment Napa may have them or Canadian tire the Dorman number is in the picture .Or you can order on Amazon if your not in a rush. Take your part to see if it fits would be ideal if you can get it locally.
KEVINSKI, You're busted!! That link you posted says "This does not fit your Ford F100"
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Lately when I go to a Amazon it does not give you any choice other than about six vehicle manufactures.does not have gm or Chevy in there drop down window .