Was cleaning up my gunky bell housing ('51 3100 w/216) for painting and found what looks like a small screw broken off flush just under the right side below the stomp starter linkage.
There's a boss there, so I'm suspecting that should be where a clamp for the battery cable going to the starter screws on. Can anyone confirm that thinking?
Thanks
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Not sure what that is doesn’t appear there’s enough room for a cable clamp under the starter return spring.
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I can barely see what might be that same screw stub on your first pic, but you're right, it's just too tight in there for a cable. I was getting ready to drill and remove the stub, but won't bother now.
BTW, I see that your ground strap is routed over the return spring. My truck has a piece that forces that strap under the spring.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Here is a page in the FAM, showing the starter wiring and it doesn’t appear to have a clamp on the positive cable.
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
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BTW, I see that your ground strap is routed over the return spring. My truck has a piece that forces that strap under the spring.
Can you post a picture of that piece. I routed it that way because I didn’t want the strap to rub on the spring. In the picture it appears to be sitting on the spring but there is a little clearance. I think gravity will eventually win!
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
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I don't have it handy right now, but if you look at Sect 12, Sheet 8.00 in the FAM, it shows the "guide". It's a z-shaped piece of sheet metal with a bolt hole thru it. I'm also seeing that same figure shows the battery to starter hot wire routed thru a clip on the other end of that ground strap. I remember taking that off of my truck. Which answers the question about that flush screw on the bell housing not being used for a battery cable clamp. Found the photo of when I removed it.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Thanks Kevin, it shouldn’t be to hard to fabricate.
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
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If I run across the actual item, I'd be happy to post dimensions. I need to shovel my way out to my trailer (again!) where it likely is.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Here ya go pics are not great, 1 inch wide, hole looks 9/64 Mabel try 3/8 first see if bolt fits.looks 1/16 thick
Thanks Kevin! I’ll have to file this one away until I get to it! It’s something I didn’t even know I needed or knew was missing!
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc Brakes Project Journals Stovebolt Gallery Forum
But I dug mine out of the trailer yesterday, and just made a dimensional drawing/photo of the guide.
It looks like 16 gauge metal to me, but didn't measure that. The angle isn't quite 90 degrees and there's a bit of radius on the bends like Kevin's picture shows.
Anyway, here you go.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
klhansen I recall the old timers (not us) telling about seeing bolts and stuff in the old castings done in the depression years. I think they saw it when they bored old blocks. I suppose other castings could have it too !!
fixite7, That spot was obviously for something, because of the boss in the casting. Maybe a holdover from a previous version of the pattern for a bell housing that didn't use a stomp starter. Not sure why they would have drilled and tapped and put that bolt stub in there, though as that would be extra work. I don't think it was cast in place like you're referring to.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.