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#1422986 09/05/2021 11:19 AM
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the king pins on my 51 3800 are froze tight. Can I swap one the whole axel with one out of a 51 3600? Thank you in advance, Gerry Lee

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Hi Gerry
Might not answer your question
I think the axles are different
3800 uses a 2 inch wide front leaf spring
Did The 3600 use a 1.5 inch wide leaf
But even if that’s true maybe all you need is a small spacer where the leaf mounts?
I’m gonna be in the similar but opposite situation as you when I go to fix up my 3600
My front axle is in perhaps not usable condition and I have many many 3800 trucks for parts all over the farm, I’m hoping I can use the 3800 front axle on my only 3600
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Originally Posted by 51 3804
the king pins on my 51 3800 are froze tight.

"Froze tight"- - - - -like in "won't turn right/left" or "can't be pressed out for a kingpin and bushing change"? A rosebud torch will get a rust-frozen spindle moving right/left after disconnecting the tie rod and using a long piece of pipe as a lever over the spindle. Once you get it freed up, then change the kingpins and bushings. A 3600 does not have the right spindle or hub to accomodate the wheel offset you need to match the rear wheels of a 3800 if it's equipped with dual rear wheels.

I just fixed a Massey-Ferguson 135 tractor with a rusted spindle that wouldn't turn right/left. It took two days of soaking with penetrating oil and heating with a torch to get it freed up.
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51 3804 #1423105 09/06/2021 10:16 AM
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Hi, Yes Jerry it won't turn at all. I tried the torch trick with no lock but not the long pipe. Thanks for the tip I'll try that next. And as for 2many It's 2bad we live on opposite sides of the country! Thanks for the feedback, Gerry

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Be sure to put the nut back onto the spindle before prying on it to avoid damaging the threads.
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