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Hello everyone, I posted about this a long time ago but can't find the thread anymore. Anyway, I wanted to post a pic to see if any of the Carter guys can help point me in the right direction. It's on a 235 and works great with the exception that high idle doesn't work. I can't find information on the Carters like I have for a Rochester 1B. Is there something missing, is the choke assembled incorrectly? The choke seems to work fine, it starts great but I have to keep pressing the accelerator a bit until it warms up.

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1953 Canadian GMC 9314 w/ (factory) Chevy 235
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From the image you posted it looks ok. You should install so that the bi-metal spring engages the tang you see there and then turn until the little line on the cover lines up with 1 mark to the rich side and tighten the three screws holding the cover. If you do that, the fast idle linkage should be ok. I will tell you I've noticed if the accelerator rod spring is too stiff, sometimes the fast idle mechanism on the YF won't work as it should, however.


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Thanks Jon. That was kind of my feeling, that it can't overcome the throttle spring.


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That carb does not use a fast idle cam like some others. There a very fine-toothed ratchet assembly in the choke housing that advances the throttle linkage to increase the idle speed when the choke is applied. Inspect the teeth for wear or looseness- - - -it's a flimsy-looking exception to the usual excellent Carter carb design.
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Interesting! Didn't know about the teeth (arrow picture 4), looks like this?
Also included pictures from the 967S spec sheet and Carter YF Features sheet all dated 1953.
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"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
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Yes thank you


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Yes, that's them and as Jerry said they do seem puny for something Carter would have developed. There will occasionally also be a small wire wrapped around the affair...please don't undo it. If you don't use a spring that's too strong, all works mostly ok. If you use a spring like the old screen door spring on your throttle rod, then it is likely it will just pull straight across them. On one very well-used one, I restored the teeth with a micro-file. It seemed to help a bit, but not enough to suggest people start doing that. I just received another well-used one. I may try that trick on it, also.


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Pictures of a parts 2101S carburetor.
The trip lever and cover were missing.
Not much for teeth. More like nubs.
Also shows the ends of the spring (second picture, top).
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967S 07.jpg (69.26 KB, 45 downloads)

Last edited by buoymaker; 08/18/2021 6:09 PM.

"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
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Those are the little teeth I restored with a micro-file. As I said, helped a bit. When I get around to working on the one I just received, I'll try to remember to post it. You can see the little spring wire I mentioned on yours...second image at the top. I am always watching for parts carburetors, by the way...


~ Jon
1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end

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