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#1404503 04/03/2021 1:58 AM
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Probably won't apply to many but the HF boomers (chain tighteners) have CAST steel hooks. We were moving our 14" Reed-Prentice (6 to 7k #'s) when one of the ends on a boomer went bye bye. The boomer is for 3/8 chain so not a wuss. Fortunately the hook snapped at the start of the lift rather that when it was elevated. Sounded like a 30-06 and the forklift mast shielded my thick head from a wayward chain end.


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Evan, glad it worked out as well as it did. Sure sounds like it could have ended bad. Binders and chain are two things I don't bargain shop for. I'm still using old chain binders with Made in the USA on em. It's amazing how they hold up to a 3' cheater when sucking them down.

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Yeesh. That is scary stuff.


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Which style/part-number HF hook failed?

this 12,000 lb one?
this supposedly 12,000 lb one?

Nonetheless, thanks for the warning - scary.

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Which style/part-number HF hook failed?

this 12,000 lb one?
this supposedly 12,000 lb one?

Nonetheless, thanks for the warning - scary.

Tim, my bet is on this one.

Or this one.


RonR

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Thanks for the warning, i've got a set of HF chain thangs. I've only used them once and now maybe never again.


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Evan, you're going about it wrong- - - - -you need to find a millennial who can make that machine move by tapping a few keys on his laptop, or maybe his smart phone! Us "boomers" are the only ones left who actually do any manual labor! I'm sorely tempred to mis-spell "manual", but the PC Patrol is watching, and Cartman would probably rap my knuckles!
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Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
. . Us "boomers" are the only ones left who actually do any manual labor! I'm sorely tempred to mis-spell "manual", but the PC Patrol is watching, and Cartman would probably rap my knuckles!
Jerry

Who is "Cartman"?

The most reliable labor around us is the "manuel" labor. (and, the price is right). I tip them, and, they still are a good choice.

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Who is "Cartman"?

Clean out your PM inbox!
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I'll repeat this like the broken record I am. Everything has a rating. EVERYTHING! Know your ratings, know your loads, know your applications!

Sorry, that's the old steel working lineman in me. Yeah, that's me beneath the helicopter and in the middle of that 20' fiberglass ladder. Rigging matters.
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From the perspective of a former operator of a Grove rubber-tired crane with a 10 ton dead lift capacity, the guys who do that kind of stuff must need a wheelbarrow to haul around some of their body parts!
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Lol!

The first crane they let me play with was the Lorrain 18 ton Rough Terrain. Either operating OR being at the other end in a man basket.
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Cartman, the kid from South Park

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Got trained on a 15 ton grove mobile crane and ran it a few times a year. Never did run it on any critical lifts.
Also spent some time hanging off the hook in a basket. Did many regular crane inspections on our bridge cranes, jib cranes and the Polar crane.
The turbine building bridge cranes were 260 toners and the polar crane was about 280 ton.
Got into training and qualifying our new guys in the shop on those.
Most folks don,t realize that the signal man is the real operator of a crane. The guy at the controls is just pulling and pushing levers under the direction of the signalman.

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Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
"Who is "Cartman" ?
Clean out your PM inbox!
Jerry

?????

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Tim,
Don't know any numbers for the tool but is very old and was bought when the ONLY HF in the Dallas area was on US Hwy 30 in Mesquite. Took shot of hook which shows entire tool so maybe a sleuth can come up with an answer. Break shows it is certainly cast and not forged.

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As a professional user of such items, I'm with Ron. "chain binders" (either boomers or ratchets) and "Harbor Freight" are terms that only belong together in the negative.

Here's my work picture wink ( I'm the guy behind the camera -- I drive the white thing with wheels. I leave the yellow thing with tracks to someone else. Those old Cat controls are just ... wrong.)

And OBTW Mark and Jerry -- You further validate my opinion that crane operators are generally ... weird ... wink nanner
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Looks like the 5400# lever type so with the lathe being in the 6000 to 7000# range the tool is not to blame. Lathe was built for the US Navy in 1942 and is a heavy dude. Note the crankshaft mounted up in the chuck.

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Originally Posted by John Milliman
And OBTW Mark and Jerry -- You further validate my opinion that crane operators are generally ... weird ... wink nanner


I resemble that remark....................................

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Im a local 478 operating engineer and I have seen some pretty new “looking” crosby hooks fail and a few old ones open up and stretch but never actually let go. Steel does weird things depending on how its heat treated or used and how evenly forces are applied. I probably wouldn’t trust anything from a china store for anything critical.......but my HF engine hoist works great. 👍

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Originally Posted by MNSmith
I resemble that remark....................................


Indeed. Your honor -- the prosecution rests.


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Originally Posted by coilover
Looks like the 5400# lever type so with the lathe being in the 6000 to 7000# range the tool is not to blame.....
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/0zGYpqvB/IMG-5261.jpg[/img]

Your Honor, the defense rests!


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