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#1392857 01/16/2021 5:06 AM
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Need some advice with my speedometer cable. My speedometer gauge stop registering at all a few weeks back. My gauges were rebuilt about 15 years ago were working fine (and the cable was new back then also). Should I assume the cable is bad and start with replacing that for this issue? I have a '53 3100, with a '57 235 engine and a 4 speed Saginaw trans. Thanks for any input/advice!


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Pull the cable off the trans and gently insert into a drill chuck. Turn it counterclockwise slowly to see if the gauge works. If it’s the trans gear, you’ll know. If it’s the cable, you might be closer. I had this issue and, suspected my new cable, and tried the above...nothing. Pulled the gauge out, removed the cable and tried to spin it by hand...nothing.

Gauge disassembly followed. Turned out the internals were seized with 70 year old grease that was as hard as old pancake mix. Cleaned, lubed, assembled, and it works beautifully now.

Don’t run that cable until whatever it is is fixed. You might have to rebuild that gauge again, instead of lube it.

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Dodgerbum I'll bet that saginaw works good they made thode with 3.50 to 1 low gear good for stump pulling and other low gear stuff! There is one that is almost exact as the sm420 except synchro low gear nice in traffic !

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Originally Posted by fixite7
There is one that is almost exact as the sm420 except synchro low gear nice in traffic !

I'm not aware of any Saginaw 4-speed with a first gear ratio anywhere near the 7.05:1 of the SM-420. These two transmissions are not in the same league...

Don't rule out a broken speedometer cable. I just had one twist off 3" in from the trans end...

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Mike B I may be wrong about those ratios and I understand what you mean ,the sm420 is atough gear box made for hard work. However for a street daily driver like a 3100 in modern traffic the saginaw works fine. Anyway my 3 handle fine. You can also have an overdrive !!

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Originally Posted by fixite7
Mike B I may be wrong about those ratios and I understand what you mean ,the sm420 is atough gear box made for hard work. However for a street daily driver like a 3100 in modern traffic the saginaw works fine. Anyway my 3 handle fine. You can also have an overdrive !!

Agree, I also have a Saginaw in my '56 3100...works just fine!

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I disconnected at the transmission and spun with my drill. The needle moved for a second and then stopped. I then disconnected at the gauge and saw that the same needle was spinning when I ran the drill. I reconnected back to the gauge and transmission...took a drive, and it now works fine. Maybe a connection issue, but still not ruling out the cable needs to be replaced. I’ll keep an eye on it. Thanks for the replays!


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dosgerbum Have seen the broken whiskers catch and work for a while.

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In general what do bolters think the best speedometer lube is?? This would be for a colder climate.

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I put regular grease in the freezer, at 5 below F, still flexible, that is what I use.

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Hmmmm now why would you put grease in a freezer?


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Originally Posted by Roadking53
Hmmmm now why would you put grease in a freezer?
I would suspect Ed wanted to see if the grease he planned on using on the speedometer cable was going to work at 5 below.

Last edited by Phak1; 03/06/2021 8:53 PM.

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light grease infused with graphite is excellent and it won't freeze.


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