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Still not getting the information I need to make a conversion from oil bath to dry filter air filter.

I have the original oil bath air cleaner system, but somewhere along the way during the life of this filter, the filtration element material contained in the top part of the filter was removed, so it is completely empty.

I want to convert this filter so I can use the dry filters available on the market today. Before I make the first cut to remove the insides of the top part of my existing filter, I would like to know the manufacture, part number, and size of the filter I should purchase to fit inside the top portion of the oil bath filter canister. Once I gut the inside of the top part of the existing element, there is no going back.

By the way, the K&N (E-9216)filter identified in the Tech Tips and another thread in this forum is no longer being made by K&N and they have no replacement. I feel that someone in the Stovebolt world has encountered this same thing and can provide this valuable information.

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what air cleaner do you have? "original" is insufficient. do you have a picture?

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raleigh58,

If you have an original oil bath air cleaner, it would either have a 1 pint capacity (standard equipment) or a 2 pint oil capacity.

The 1-pint air cleaner probably looked like this one in 1959. The optional 2-pint oil cleaner was much larger, with more rounded sides.

As requested above, post a link to a photo of your filter.

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In your other thread last week (5/17) I provided a link to a thread that showed how I did a conversion to what I believe is the same filter on my 56. I provided the manufacturer and p/n of the correct filter (WIX WA10094). To avoid making you follow links to two different threads now, here is a direct link to that post with pictures of my air filter before and after:

https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1212014/3.html

I hope this helps

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Thank you for re-supplying your thread once again. I am interested in only cutting out the inside portion of the upper basket on my oil bath air filter and getting a correctly fitting dry filter to install inside of the upper canister. When the dry filter (inside the upper canister)and the upper canister are installed into the lower part, or bowl if you will, you will not see the dry filter and the look is very close to that of the original.

This is why I am trying to determine the correct filter dimensions, manufacturer and part number before 'chopping' up the top portion of my filter.

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I understand. I did end up putting some dark foam (like a prefilter for a lawn mower) around the paper element causing the white of it to disappear. Here is what that looks like in case you or anyone else wants to go that route:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb02tm1838ub488/TF%20aircleaner%20FOAM%201.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj1up3rsb3r8gc0/TF%20aircleaner%20FOAM%202.jpg?dl=0

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Thanks for the additional pictures, but that is not the look I am after when changing over to the dry filter.

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I apologize for hijacking this thread but I have a question. Did your original oil bath filter lid fit flush with the housing or did it always sit approximately 1" - 2" above the housing?


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John, you may be in uncharted waters with what you are trying to accomplish. Sometimes one needs to be the "Christopher Columbus" and go for it.
I couldn't find anyone who had ever tried to fit a 54 hood on a 47-53 truck, so I went ahead and did it. Fit like a glove, and now everyone on this site can do a search and find out that it fits.
Now its your turn.
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Bruce,

Not to worry. You did not hijack my thread. You contributed to it. My oil bath air filter (top portion) sits 1" to 2" above the base as you indicated. Might show in the photographs I provided earlier this afternoon.

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Have no idea what you are referring to here. You must have my thread confused. I am trying to convert the oil bath air filter on my 1958 235 6-cylinder engine to a dry type filter and still maintain the look of the stock oil bath air filter. Sorry if I confused you. This has absolutely nothing to do with how the hood of my truck fits.

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But did it originally sit above the base before your conversion process?

I have one where the lid sits flush with the interior bowl. I'm puzzled whether I buy a filter that sits 2" taller than the interior bowl or not.


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On my oil bath air filter, the top part sits pretty close to 1 inch above the bottom 'bowl' which is the oil reservoir. I want to maintain that same dimension when I do modify my unit.

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Originally Posted by raleigh58
Have no idea what you are referring to here. You must have my thread confused. I am trying to convert the oil bath air filter on my 1958 235 6-cylinder engine to a dry type filter and still maintain the look of the stock oil bath air filter. Sorry if I confused you. This has absolutely nothing to do with how the hood of my truck fits.

he is trying to tell you that sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

in one last attempt to get you on your way, here are 2 useful links to find air filters once you figure out what dimensions will work:

http://www.wixfilters.com/lookup/FilterBySize.aspx

https://www.knfilters.com/search/univ2.aspx?id=S0001

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tomctomc,

Thanks. I had no problem understanding his reference to Columbus. It was the part about the '54 hood that through me. That had nothing to do with my oil bath air filter question.

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If you have the version of the oil bath that I have, here are some pix showing what it will look like when gutted and with the K&N E-9216 installed. I trim 1 1/8" off the base of the top to allow more air flow, but you can't see this modification when the top is installed. One of the pictures shows a stock oil bath next to a modified one.

http://s844.photobucket.com/user/ma...2002_zpsdqh22svz.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

Different than described in the Tech Tip, this version requires that the top be completely gutted. The K&N filter fits in perfect and seals agains the top and bottom.

I received an email this morning that K&N will have the E-9216 filters back in stock on July 10.

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Matt,

Thanks for sending this. This is the look I am after. Guess I will have to wait until July 10 for K&N.

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Does anyone have a spare TaskForce oil bath air cleaner top or an entire filter that they would be willing to part with? I'd like to try a paper element setup on my truck to see if I can cure the black (non-oily) soot build-up on tail pipe along with the strong smell of gas after driving it. Its a 235, single barrel rochester, with Pertronix distributor insert. Starts and runs good. No blue smoke. I also still have a leak of something black (not oil, not gas, by smell) coming out of the intake port on #4 cylinder. I was able to see that this leak is not coming off of the valve cover.


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1. Drive to local auto parts store and purchase a Fram CA-148 or equivalent.
2. Disassemble factory air cleaner, remove inner aluminum piece, clean housing thoroughly.
3. Install said CA-148 paper filter inside housing and re-assemble
4. Re-install factory air cleaner housing on Rochester/Carter/Zenith carb on your 216/235/261/228/248/270/302
5. Open another cold Miller Latte and admire your hard work.


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I used the CA-148 with no problem. Pretty easy conversion as noted above.


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I had a suspicion that someone had done this oil bath to paper filter conversion way before I ever thought of it! smile

https://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/engines/air%20cleaner/

EXCELLENT!


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If you have the 2 pound oil bath air cleaner, the lid is separate from the element (3 piece: bottom, element, lid). It's an easy conversion. The more common oil bath air cleaner (techtips), that has the element and lid as one piece, requires surgery.

https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1325488
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