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#1388323 12/14/2020 8:44 PM
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Looking at a truck for sale has original 235 in it with 59 thousand miles on it what would be a decent price
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Not enough information to give a reasonable valuation. Need about 30 more closeup photos. Or check out our Tech Tips on buying/selling.


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As Justhorsinaround said we need more info. Just so you know, in ‘52, 3100’s (1/2 ton) pickups came with a 216 not 235’s. They were not available in the 1/2 ton until ‘54.

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You go first...............How much are they asking? and do they have a 100% legit title? After I get those answers, there are the all important three magic questions.
BTW: The mileage has no bearing on value. Motor, not real important. Good that it has one. You don't use the same mind set as you would buying a 1982 Chevy truck. Totally different set of concerns and opinions. Kelly Blue Books and NADA and Hagerty are worthless in either case.


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Just to add to the title


Make sure how ever its titled that the title numbers can be verified.

Example: guy has clear title, truck was previously titled by engine number. Since that time engine replaced.
Numbers no longer match title.

My case, truck titled by door post numbers. I go to DMV for inspection. Inspector wont verify because door post plate is “removable”. Luckily older inspector came to look and signed off.

So on, so on

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Need way way more information and 30+ photos to know what you're working with.

Assuming it is solid, mostly rust free, and runs/drives decent but needs some TLC to make it a road-worthy driver, I'm thinking no more than $15,000-$20,000 or so for asking price.
Some might call me crazy, but I just saw one in worse condition than this one go for $14,000 very quickly after listed.


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Patrick, can you post that sale or where it was listed? thanks


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I will say that the truck was painted in 1988. It was a former military vechile im not sure only thought it has a 235 in it. It does run and is not perfect just but overall a little brake work and carb cleaning and a few other small details I think you could put her back on the road. It does have a title here is a picture of the engine hoping this helps
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dstray #1388366 12/15/2020 12:58 AM
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Not a 235.


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Short pushrod cover....

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Im learning here the only reason im saying its a 235 is because of the short push rod cover on the side not the long one on this engine the cover is short. the truck may have had an engine swap the owner got it in the early 70s and that was the engine.

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I have a 54 3600 been sitting out back for a few years. I would sell it if I had any idea what to ask. I had one guy stopped buy and offer $300.
it's not a runner so I'm clueless. good luck. Do bullet holes help the value?

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If it's complete, even if not operating, it's worth more than $300.
Bullet holes only increase the value for rednecks. wink


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I see a ballast resistor, looks like it's been converted to 12 volts...

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yes it has been converted to 12 volt. Im just looking to see roughly what this is worth im thinking 1,000 to 1,500 bucks im i close

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The only reason im saying its a 235 is because of the short push rod cover and not the long one. Maybe there was an engine swap in the early days the owner has had it since the early 70s. Maybe it was an option in 52 for the 235 could this be the case?

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Looks like a 235 with a 216 valve cover, get the s/n next to the distributor. That will tell you

1500 would be an excellent deal depending of condition of sheet metal. Look around. They are going for a lot more than that.

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Look at the valve cover. A newer 235 will have the bolts along the sides not on top. If it is an older 235 out of a Big Bolt it could have the top valve cover bolts. The price you have suggested might be a good buy. If it’s what you want and you have the skills to bring it to what you want, then go for it.


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'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily)
‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence)
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Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop!
USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)

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It does look like a 235, but it’s not original. I think your way off on the price though. The prices for these AD trucks have been climbing. Without all of the details, it looks like its a complete near original truck. If that is the case and it runs and drives with no major issues, I would gladly pay $3,500 - $5,000.


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Thank you guys we will see might be my first 52 chevy. Im not looking to restore the truck just looking at fixing the brakes and cleaning the fuel system and few other minor things and driving it and take it from there just want an ice cream getter an occasional ride.

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Man, I'd LOVE to get my hands on that truck. I can't see enough due to the snow on it, but it looks complete and reasonably straight - a fine example of the proverbial barn find. Guys on this forum will warn you to watch out for rust in the lower cab corners, however my assumption is that they ALL have rust in that area, so don't let that deter you. That's a dang nice truck - around here it would fetch up to $3500 as it sits, $2500 would be a normal price, $1500 would be a Christmas present. Mick53, punch that lowballer in the mouth who offered you $300; that's an insult.


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I don't have any pictures with no snow on it. Like i said it was painted in 1988 but was never driven during the winter. The cab corners do look good the only rust hole I see is rear drivers side fender and a very small hole on the cab as you open the door on the drivers side by the front fender. another thing I cant understand is the blinkers on the front fender I see some have them and some don't thanks again guys

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Turn signals on the fenders were an add-on. They were not stock when the truck was new.


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Better jump on it now .... if its what you want, before the owner gets on Facebook and realizes he can get 8k for it. As pictured.
Lurkers are probably scouring craighlist or even google earth trying to find it.


Plus red trucks bring in more in December....kinda like black cats are more expensive in October cool



300...? Fair price.? In the early 70’s. Thats what my Dad paid for my 50 in 74

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I don't think that is a 216. The short side cover 216 that we see in Canada has distinctive features on the head. This head is not one of those. It looks like someone took good care of it under the hood. Photos like these make the truck call out to me! I am lucky that I have n't the funds or space for more old trucks because that could be a problem!


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Wouldn't that valve cover need a vent, or breather filler cap?

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Passenger car service 235s from '50-'53 used the old-style, two-stud valve cover (as did the '41-'53 HD truck 235s). Best way to ID the engine in the truck is to look for the stamped engine serial number on the machined pad, just aft of the distributor, and sort of behind the dipstick (as was said in an earlier post). If it's a '53 or older 235, there should be a three-letter prefix that will ID the engine and its original service use. Some replacement blocks may not have that.

'54 and newer 235s will either have a letter-number suffix or a short serial number, either of which can also help ID the engine. It's an easy retrofit to install the two-stud valve cover on the newer 235s, so the engine serial number, the date code cast in the block, sort-of behind and above the starter, or block casting number (low in front of the distributor, and sometimes hard to see) are really the best way to ID the engine. In any event, it's not a 216, as others have said.


Doug

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Dad's, no, the early valve covers have the open vent slots.


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Don't see any vent in the pic

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Dad's, they are there, just "pointed" backwards, so hard to see. Three of them - see the photo I've marked up. Green arrows point to the slots.

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LOL That's to funny DADS50 maybe we could hook up a few reindeer to the front and deliver a few gifts. Thank you guys for all the help ill keep you informed. Have any of you had any dealings with hotroddirtys ?

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It’s a 53-55.1 235 with a 216 style valve cover. Which is good.

Buy it all ready! 😎


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Since you're a new buyer, make sure you confirm the serial number on the title matches something on the truck cab or engine before laying down your money. It was common when this truck was new for States to use the engine number on the title. If the original engine is gone, the title now doesn't match anything on the truck...

Every State has a work around for this problem, but it does add a lot more heart burn to the deal. Just go at it with your eye's wide open and you'll be fine!

Happy Holidays!

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I had a 216 with the short side cover. It seems to me the side cover had creases that ran corner to corner so the markings resembled an X. It's hard to tell, but I don't think this side cover has the X mark. I wonder if they used different short side covers for a 216 versus the 235.

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Didn't the "early" 235's have the 216 valve cover? The short height pushrod cover gives it away as a 235.


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On USA 235s, the shorter side cover gives it away as a later, high-pressure 235 or a 261?

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As Mike says, be sure to verify truck SN, especially if it was military, they didn’t care much about titles.

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thank you all again I have learned so much. I will keep you informed

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My 51 Chev truck had its original engine replaced sometime in the 1950s. That owner had the title changed to match the new engine. In the mid-seventies I swapped that engine for another one from another pickup and sold that pickup. So now my title no longer matched the engine number. Fortunately again my title had the license plate number on it.

In time, in an effort to keep prisoners at the state prison busy, the state made everybody buy new license plates. I realized that if I got the new plate there would be nothing connecting my title with the actual truck. So I hustled down to the State Patrol for an inspection to talk them into using the number on the door pillar for the title. I explained the train of events.

The young officer began scraping the frame looking for a number with his flashlight, which he didn't find and was confused because GMC trucks did have frame numbers. He was about to impound the truck when a veteran officer came out to inform him that Chevrolet trucks did not have frame numbers. The old officer looked at the paperwork I had and at the license plate that matched the title and signed off on a new title using the door post number. Whew! That door-post plate was riveted on with special rivets and I've been very careful not to disturb them when doing body work and paint.


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