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#1376485 09/09/2020 1:46 PM
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When replacing the rear main seal is it better to go with the original rope style or the newer neoprene (rubber) style on a 235 engine? Can anyone recommend a specific product?

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I used the newer rubber on my 59 235 no leaks. Good luck.

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"Best Gasket" makes a rope seal that's the only one worth considering, and I believe they have recently introduced a lip seal that fits the 235/261 engines also.
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If the main bearings are of the shimmed variety, you need to use a rope seal. Its a little muddy as to when shims were no longer used in 235s. Somewhere beginning around '54-'55.


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If that is correct, probably/maybe 55-2nd and later?

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The neoprene seal was introduced in 56. So 55 and earlier used a rope seal. You can use a rope seal in a 56 and up motor, but you cannot retrofit a neoprene seal to a 55 and earlier motor. The rear main cap is machined differently, deeper really, and the neoprene sinks into the cap on the earlier motors.


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What Jerry said!
Best Gasket. Came with easy directions.
Did my 58' 235. Still NO leaks from almost 2 years ago.
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For as really permanent fix, have the block and rear main cap bored to fit a Chicago Rawhide #38647 full circle lip seal. That requires stripping the engine down to a bare block and setting it up in a Bridgeport mill, or using a fixture like I designed a couple of years ago that adapts a cylinder boring machine to the back of the engine block. Setup on the Bridgeport takes several hours, and is very expensive. With my fixture in place, I can be making cast iron chips in 30-45 minutes, and the whole process takes a bit over one hour to complete.

https://www.zoro.com/skf-shaft-seal-3-78x4-34x38-crwa1-nbr-38647/i/G9397674/

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Thanks, 235 in my truck is a 1959 model.


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