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#1366740 06/28/2020 12:30 AM
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Well, the engine is stripped down, tranny to come off shortly. Then, how do I attach the chain for the engine hoist to pick it up? This is a 1960 Apache C20, 235 I6. Just want to make sure and not drop it or use a short hole and strip it out, etc....
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The factory recommendation was to use two eye bolts (part of their tool kit #J-4536-A)) replacing two head bolts (this Procedure is from p. 6-21 of the '55 Chevy 2nd Series Truck Shop Manual, but it still applies). Figure 27 will help ID the head bolts they suggested for balance. There are other attachment points that work, also. But with a bare chassis, I would probably use two slings underneath the engine to raise it. Dry weight of the engine with bell housing, no transmission, is just over 600 #.

Doug

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If the rocker arms are removed, use two of the rocker stand holes with Grade 5 or better 3/6-16 bolts as lift points. Bolt a chain to the #2 and #4 rocker stand points and the engine and bellhousing assembly should lift pretty close to level. There's also a lot less danger of damaging rockers and pushrods if they're out of the way before you start lifting.
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I will be leaving the engine intact. Guess I will go with the sling. Plan is to remove transmission and bellhousing before engine. thanks, really good procedure for lifting engine.


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I have also used the technique that Jerry describes.

As shown/described in the Shop Manual - no problems.
(the written procedure/instructions start one page earlier)

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Good luck with removing the bellhousing.
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Another option on engine removal is to use the two valve cover bolts, with a spreader bar. 270 shown.

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I will give this a try right after the tranny pull, thanks all...


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I'm puzzled by the following order of events from the shop manual.

1. Remove engine, clutch and transmission as a unit.
2. Mount engine in the stand.
3. Remove transmission.

What kind of stand did they use to hold the engine with clutch and transmission still attached. Was it some kind of cradle? Am I missing something?

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A cradle that picks up the rear, side engine mounts and the front mount will do it, however, you will loose the rear mounts when you remove the bellhousing. Then you can make a cradle of 2 X 10's or so to pick up the pan rails, but then you cannot remove the pan. So when you remove the bellhousing and are suspending the engine from the valve cover bolts, etc., find a standard rotating engine mount that is designed for it and pick up some of the rear block bolts that held the bellhousing on. Then you can rotate the engine 360 degrees to work on it. It is best to get one with four wheels, and is long enough for a 6 cyl. engine. Look around for a used one, just make sure it is strong enough.

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'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
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I will be removing the tranny first, then the clutch / bell housing. The engine will come out in a sling or cradle.. to be determined. The engine will go into the back of my truck and off to a rebuilder. I just do nuts and bolts for the most part. Sanding and painting will be my next skill set. thanks to all


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