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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 | Using an Ledlights 6V neg gnd LED electronic flasher unit in my Grote 966-4 turn signal. This is in a 49 3100 with alternator. Turn signals work fine but pilot light goes out shortly after install. "P" terminal on flasher is dead. Ledlights advise the flasher voltage range is 5-7V whereas my alternator delivers 7.5V output. Anyone using a LED electronic flasher that will work with an alternator? Thanks
Ed
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Would an led bulb in the switch (for pilot) solve this?
I have led in rear but standard in front so Im still using standard flasher | | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 | I think the problem lies with the flasher operating voltage of 5-7 volts and my alternator puts out 7.5 volts. An LED pilot might work but at $15 a pop for the flasher, I'll have to decide if I can just live with no pilot or spring for another flasher and try the LED pilot. Thanks for the input.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,362 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,362 | Ed, I just discovered my pilot light issue was partially a grounding issue. While chasing down a brake light problem I re-cleaned the steering column under the Signal-Stat 900 flasher switch. I'd initially scraped the paint to provide a ground when I installed turn signals. After a quick sanding, the pilot light will flash a couple times then stop. Next step will be to remove the bulb and see if I can spot a contact/continuity issue.
Added in edit; this afternoon I pulled the top cover off the ol SignalStat 900 turn-signal switch, then pulled the pilot light bulb. All looked good, grounding it to a proven ground made no change. When the turn-signals are activated, the bulb will light up very brightly, flash a time or two, then dim and not flash. My current theory is it's all related to the fact that I'm running a old stock, flasher unit. With LED's in the rear and stock incandescent bulbs up front, the flasher isn't seeing sufficient load to operate the pilot bulb. A weak theory I know. The test would be to reinstall the incandescent bulbs in the rear and see what happens. If I do, I'll report the results. The problem is, if the test causes the pilot to work, I'm not sure what good that is since I don't know how to fix the problem. A digital or electronic flasher unit ? When I've tried those in the past, the turnsignals flashed unacceptably fast.
Good Luck,
RonR
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RonR
1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear 1970 340 Duster 1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain) 1964 CJ5
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | I run standards in front. And LED’s in rear Standard flasher works for me Im 12 volts. I think OP is 6 volts My pilot works ok with this set up My problem was not being able to hear the clicker and the bar of steering wheel blocking pilot ..my fix... | | | | | Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,362 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,362 | DADS50, Nice! Yes on OP (and my truck) being 6V. Should this be a problem? My truck with alternator has about 7.5V when running.
RonR
1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear 1970 340 Duster 1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain) 1964 CJ5
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 | The LEDlights flasher range is 5-7V according to their customer rep. I think my problem is same as moparguy since my alternator also puts out 7.5V. Resigned myself to no pilot light since the flashers do work and click.
Ed
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