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Hello all, just starting to remove my side windows for new window channels and gaskets
Question, does the the outer molding hold the rubber gasket in? My rubber is really weathered and hard. I want to make sure before trying to remove the outer molding; it’s seams pretty thin metal
Are there any tips to removing thirds without damaging the molding?

** Lou, The outer window molding does not hold the seals/gaskets. They are for appearance only. Be sure to remove all the inside trim and all seals before trying to remove the outer trim. The outer trim is pretty fragile so use extreme caution getting them off. If you damage one finding a replacement is just about zero. Very pricey if you do find one. Just finished replacing all the seals and glass in a 53 Suburban. Took me a week to get it done.

Here is my write up for install. Just go in the reverse order for removal. Or start at the bottom of the page, if you will. AD Suburban Side Window Install

Here is another tip. If you have damaged or do damage that outer trim, and good chrome shop can restore the shape for you. At least mine said he could.

Got the rubber seals out they were glued in I think
A little warning with heat gun

Mark, does the felt channel on run on three sides because of the stationary glass?

The felt channel runs around the whole circumference.

Mark, if you don’t mind can you send me a pic of the final configuration
The pics in the right up are dark

Thanks

My black primer makes it hard to see anything. Lemme try.

Think of it this way. You build this window in layers. The first layer is the stationary glass and the 3/8"x3/8" rubber, because the stationary glass doesn't fill up the whole opening horizontally. So you need that 3/8" rubber to fill the gap. The next layer will be the channel. Sure, a sliding glass rests in that channel, but something needs to fill that whole circumference of the window opening. There is no other material to do that except for the felt channel. All those layers are held in with the inner window trim.

That's the felt all the way around.

Hey mark
The pictures are dark in the write up
Can you send me some of the final assembly

Ok the layers explanation helps
Did you bend the channel slightly around the edge where the stationary glass ends in the middle and press the channel against the flange in the body?

No. The channel rests against the stationary glass and the 3/8" rubber. It has to be straight as an arrow so the sliding glass can slide open and closed. You can see the rubber in picture #32 and picture #34 sandwiched between the channel and the outer trim.

You're in the high desert?

Hello Mark , I'm working on a 1953 GMC Suburban and have a couple of questions regarding the sliding rear side windows please.
(1) Where did you purchase the "vertical whiskers" strip that is attached to the fixed window ?
(2) Where did you purchase the 3/8"x3/8" rubber strip that fills the gap between the sliding window channel and the outer trim ?
Thank you sir.
Whitman

1 an 2: https://www.classicparts.com/1947-54-Suburban-Side-Window-Weatherstrip-Kit/productinfo/01-505/

** Above Classicparts shipping fee $75.00 ???? ***

Wow, that doesn't seem right. It fits in a smallish box.

Wow again! When I bought it in 2012, it cost me $150 for the parts, $15 for shipping. Maybe one should call ahead and double check the shipping prices!

Thanks for the info. I contacted Classic Parts regarding the shipping costs. They quoted me "oversized" UPS $90.00 from their company in Missouri to me in Massachusetts ! Wow!! They said the weatherstrip ships in a long straight box. The weatherstrip kit costs $199.95. Don't think I can afford that shipping cost. I'll try contacting Steel Rubber and see what they have for the Suburban side windows.

If you have a Fastenal store near you, ask Classic Parts if they would ship through Fastenal.

I believe Chev's of the 40's also had a kit.

$75 is just nuts.
Their picture indicates the stuff coiled up, and would likely fit in a USPS Large Flat Rate Box for about $20.
They refused to ship anything at all to me in Alaska, even though it weighed less than a pound and would fit in a small box. Got the standard "we don't ship to Alaska"
You might ask them if it can be coiled and shipped normally. I've had stuff shipped to a freight forwarder and paid them to ship it to me and it was way more stuff than an "oversize" shipping tube. I've also bought a 5 ft length of stainless steel tubing and it was shipped to me for way less than $75.

Here's the info (I think) from Chev's of the 40's

Window Channel Kit With # 4070069 Rubber - Quarter
Item # 4070069C 47^54
Weighs 54.3900lbs.

This is a window channel kit with quarter window rubber (#4070069). Fits Suburban. Complete for two windows

The 54.3 lbs kind of blows me away, though. Must be the windows as well for that kind of weight, unless the channels and rubber are made out of lead.

Thanks for the info. Classic Parts said they would not coil the weatherstrip, because they "don't receive it that way." "It only comes in straight lengths". Hence the $90.00 shipping fee. They explained that their illustration is an old photo and out of date. Thanks for the info on Chev's of the 40's. I'll contact them.

** Jim Carter has the same kit, I would give them a call also.

All, sorry for late update
This job is actually pretty easy after learning after the first window

Thanks to those that coached me along

Hi Mark. any chance you or any of your guys has shots on what the inner window trim looks like as just about to mock my new glass up. Great work on the step by step tho. Very useful

While I am in the early stages I wanted to route all cabling and work out the position of my rear speakers. As I wanted them to be as discrete as possible I opted to give making my own bezels a go

Rear floor swap out for marine style Iroko deck concealing some fixings between the birch ply layer. This job took a long time with drying time of the marine adhesives taking months but I know I have as waterproof a finish as I could have done

Pretty pleased with the end result

Inner side trim