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#1340763 01/06/2020 9:28 PM
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I’m rebuilding my rear end in a 59 Apache 31 and am trying to figure out what size ring I have. The numbers on the ring are 3087702 GM 10-39 3 59 2. No clue how to decipher! Lol

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10-39 is the # of teeth. That makes it a 3:90 gear ratio. That is the normal ratio for the 1/2 ton models of that era.

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Great! Thanks a bunch.

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If I put a Saginaw 4 speed trans in front of it will it cruise nice on the hiway? I’m running a 235.

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In other words, the pinion has 10 teeth and the ring has 39. 39 divided by 10= 3.90. The ratio between the two gears.

Some of the rest looks like date. Feb 1959? So the gears are original.


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There are 4-5 different gear ratio available in the Saginaw 4-speeds...they are all direct drive transmission with 1:1 high gear, the same as the 3-speed you're probably replacing. The difference is in the lower gear ratios. The input shaft will have rings/grooves machined around the shaft that tell what gears are inside. Post the number of rings/grooves and we will have a better idea if that's a good choice or not.

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I haven’t bought the trans yet so which one should I look for? I’m also planning on running around 31x10.5 tires on it.

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Almost all 3 and 4 speed trans. are direct in high gear, OD trans. are specified as OD. Cruising 'nice' on the highway had a lot of connotations, specify.

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Scroll down on this web page for a list of all the gear ratios for many of the popular transmissions.

https://m.roadkillcustoms.com/transmission-gear-ratio-chart/

Hope this helps,

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In my opinion there is no 235 that cruises nicely on the highway with a 3:90 rear end. Best reason I can think of for an overdrive.
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I ran that size tires on my 59 Suburban, with 3.40 gears in the rear end (79 Blazer rear axle) with an SM465 trans an loved it. I could cruise along at 90 if I wanted to and it pulled whatever I put behind it (broulght my bog bolts home, weighed in at 17,340 with the 59 behind it). That said, depending on how you are using it, and with the 235 , your 3.90 gears should be great!


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Originally Posted by Ky59apache
I haven’t bought the trans yet so which one should I look for? I’m also planning on running around 31x10.5 tires on it.

Seems like that tall of a tire/wheel combination will place allot of strain on an old driveline.

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Thanks Mike B. That website helped out tremendously!

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sorry its been awhile. you are correct Mike B. I'm changing out the 3 speed for a 4 speed. the trans in it has a 2.85 first gear. I'm thinking a taller first gear in a 4 speed would be better? I would like to drive down the highway without overdoing it RPM wise- 2200 to 2500 RPMS. thanks

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Three speeds and four speeds both have direct in top gear.

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According to the 1959 truck resto pack your truck rear end had a Regular Production Option RPO 3.70 and 3.38
You could find a 3.38 ring & pinion 3rd member and install in the axle housing and you could drive at 70-80 mph all day long.
The Resto pack does not seem to show the RPO number for the 3.38 RPO, Teeth 13-44

1959 Resto pack PDF page 41.
1959 CHEVROLET TRUCK OPERATOR'S MANUAL 1/2 Ton Rear axle ratio spec. (bottom of page)

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