I have searched but not found anything about original factory tire change tools that were supplied with a new truck. And if supplied, such as a lug wrench and jack, where were they located on the truck. I have a 1949 GMC 100 and a 1950 GMC 250 and neither truck has original tools for changing a tire. If you know what was original supplied tools and where they were located on the truck please let me know.
hi Franklin's 50, I have also recently started trying to locate information about original tools for a Chevy 1950 1 Ton, presumably the GMC and Chevy would share the same tools for similar tonnage vehicles. the parts books have yielded some numbers about some of the tools http://www.gmpartswiki.com
i did happen to find an image of 3682420 tire IRON for ALL (exc. 1/2 ton) , it is attached courtesy of johnmeissinger via google image search. you can even read the original paper tag with part number on it.
so far i have yet to find a confirmed photo of the correct jacks for these trucks. i have a leading candidate jack, it is the right style and age and most importantly, it can go high enough to lift the axle and wheel off the ground
i hope folks on the forums can help us both out -s
I don't know exactly where they are supposed to go, but on my 50 4100 the original jack is in the cab corner, and I found the original lug wrench, tire iron, and key under the seat of my 2400 mile truck.
3 locations I've ever seen them located. The jack in the corner (as mentioned), and under the seat, as well as behind the seat. They had sort of a pouch/pocketed thing draped behind the seat that carried crank jack, and tire iron. They also had a spring that stretched over a crank, or hydraulic jack under the seat, and a couple of metal straps to secure the lug wrench.
1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY Gallery Video of the 261 running
1964 GMC 1000 305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
I tried to go down the original path and bought one that I thought would at least look the part (being original(ish). The jack extended fine, but would not retract without me pushing down on it and then only barely. Clearly there was something broken inside it. Instead of trying the roulette wheel again, I decided to get a newer one. I ended up with a scissor jack from a 3/4 ton modern truck. It is a beast and will lift my little 3100 without breaking a sweat. Since I'm never planning to enter a competition, the lack of originality wasn't an issue for me. When I finally get my truck on the road, I plan to stow the jack under the seat.
I believe I have my '50's original jack, handle, etc stored under the seat. The only time I've used it was when rotating my wheels. It's always a good idea to make sure your jack does extend and collapse as expended. Think I also have the double open end wrench. Need to check them out when it stops raining..........
Craig
My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
I believe I have my '50's original jack, handle, etc stored under the seat. The only time I've used it was when rotating my wheels. It's always a good idea to make sure your jack does extend and collapse as expended. Think I also have the double open end wrench. Need to check them out when it stops raining..........
Is it just floating around under there?
I cut up a piece of pink insulation foam for now. I inset the jack, lug wrench and little handle into the foam then used light gauge saftey wire in a few spots to hold them into the foam. No extra rattles so far. I believe the jack is the original to the truck. The ferrera blue paint seems to match. I got a old 50’s 3/4 lug wrench because my truck uses a bulge seat style lug with the fo*d wheels and they are all 3/4 size.
I was just curious to see how everyone was securing their original tools down.
For my '53 one ton I carry an 8 ton hydraulic jack that will lift the wheels, and a 1/2" drive flex bar with the appropriate sized socket . I keep them under the seat, which is not original and lifts from the back to be able to get to things. I also keep an emergency flag/reflector set from the 60's in there. I have an old blanket under there to keep things from making too much noise. I couldn't find a period lug wrench or jack for my truck.
Tim
I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.
For my tools under the seat, I have the hand tools in their bag and the jack and arm are wrapped in a blanket. No rolling around. But in case there is, the bed's flooring under the seat has a thick vinyl covering to protect the floor from any possible bang around of the tools.
Craig
My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
Finally lifted my cab seat and found the jack. While I had it out, I gave it some exercise and greased it while raising and lowering it. Something I might suggest we all do.
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Craig
My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
i think i have one of those as well or very similar for the Canadian 1/2 tons, but it's too short for the 3/4 and 1 Tons which require a slightly taller one based on some research online, the taller one has about an inch and a half of extra neck below the top plate and the jack body attached photo is very similar to the photos i found of supposedly the correct 3800 USA jack, but this one is more solid, being made of cast it is tall enough for the 1ton so i use it for now
i'm always on the look out for tools or documentation about tools so keep diggin' thanks -stan
What is the typical height required for a 3/4t rig. My jack goes up to 16"
Craig
My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
did the 3/4 Ton have smaller wheels like the 1/2 Ton? my 3/4 ton has the same rear axle as the 1 tons, but it's a Canadian version, and it may have been modified years ago, so i don't know for certain anymore if the 3/4 ton absolutely needs the taller jack.
reading the GM specs, the 1/2 and 3/4 tons should use the same jack that extends 15.25 inches the 1 ton jack extends to 16 inches
perhaps i have a 1.5+ Ton jack, those go to 18.125 inches and i'm pretty sure that jack i found would go that high i'm not confident my cast jack is the correct one for the 1 ton, but it works and it the best i have i know the 1/2 ton jack is too short, i tried it, put it back in the shed.
on my 1 ton, the rim is 17 inches, with 750-17, so taking half of the tire diameter which is listed at about 34 inches for the tire means it's 17 inches from the ground to the center of the axle, so take off another 1.5 inches for the axle radius leaves a gap of 15.5 inches or so to reach the axle. that 16 inch spec for the 1 ton jack is not very generous then if you are on soft ground, you must put a plank under it, or that wheel is not coming off the ground then.
