Robert, Research every vehicle that used that engine, and keep a mental note. Then hit every junk yard that you can find. More so, the little out of the way ones. Good luck, you’ll get one! Jim
~ Jim Schmidt, Bucks County, PA 1953 Chevrolet 3804 1-ton In the DITY Gallery
Mid-1950's through early 60's school buses are a good source for 261's, if you can find an old-time salvage yard that would buy them up for scrap value. You're also fairly close to Canada, and some of our stovebolter buddies up there say Pontiac car engines are still available at times. Those engines also have the option of running hydraulic valve lifters, since the passenger car 261 blocks were bored with a front to rear big oil passage through all the lifter bores. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
I used to scavenge up every "worn out" small block 4 bolt main bearing block any of my competitors were discarding, for pennies on the dollar, or sometimes free. I had an engine rebuilding program as part of the course I was teaching, and my students needed blocks to practice on. The next time a lot of those guys saw their "junk" engine it was diving into a turn ahead of them, with 8 new standard bore sleeves installed. The rest of the race block preparation had already been done for me- - - -free of charge by the guys who thought they were discarding junk!
After a while, it was hard to scavenge up any "junk" from a competitor! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
If you find one around Missouri, I can get it to you next spring at the Homecoming.
Don
1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck "The Flag Pole" In the Stovebolt Gallery 1946 2-Ton grain truck 1946 3/4-ton pickup, 1953 1-ton pickup 1957 1-ton flatbed dually, 1954 Pontiac Straight Eight Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!
Wow! That’s pricey! I think would be inclined to go DD if that was the only option😃
~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures 1959 GMC 860 | Pictures 1950 Chevrolet 3800 | Pictures I've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it!
I looked for a good long time, then found one on ebay and it happened to be just fifty miles up the road. Complete long block standard bore with correct big rochester B carb, $500. I had it machined and assembled it myself, turned out to be a really good engine. That engine will run circles around the 305 V6 in my 64 GMC 1/2 ton.
The moral of the story, keep looking and checking craiglist, good info on availing yourself to all the vehicles that had them including canadian cars.
BTW, I still have the stock slugs and a new set of standard rings if somebody wants them.
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1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY Gallery Video of the 261 running
1964 GMC 1000 305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
In this context, I'm pretty sure Billy is referring to a Detroit Diesel.
Billy's Daily Driver is a cute little late-model VW Beetle, complete with the flower vase on the dash. He probably didn't want me sharing that .... Ooops ...
~ John
A kid raised on Hotwheels, Matchbox and Tonka cannot be reasonably expected to own only one vehicle as an adult.
1949 Chevrolet 3804 In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum 1973 IH 1310 Dump 1963 Kaiser M38A1 2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie" 2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
Milliman?? What the heck? Now the secret is out! Here I was doing a good job of promoting myself as a good ol fossil fuel burnin antique truck drivin kind of guy.
Hmmmm, wonder if I can fit a DD in that little beetle.....
~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures 1959 GMC 860 | Pictures 1950 Chevrolet 3800 | Pictures I've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it!
Milliman?? What the heck? Now the secret is out! Here I was doing a good job of promoting myself as a good ol fossil fuel burnin antique truck drivin kind of guy.
Hmmmm, wonder if I can fit a DD in that little beetle.....
Hey Smiley, You don't have one single hair on where you sit down if you don't do it! Carl
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1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Carl, you got me pegged. Bald as a babies..... See, Milliman failed to mention in his little hit a run attack that the Beetle in question is the Wifey's. Even if I wanted to make it my daily d, I don't think it would be very well received, much less the idea of doing a DD swap.
Umm, Smiley???
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~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures 1959 GMC 860 | Pictures 1950 Chevrolet 3800 | Pictures I've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it!
Carl, you got me pegged. Bald as a babies..... See, Milliman failed to mention in his little hit a run attack that the Beetle in question is the Wifey's. Even if I wanted to make it my daily d, I don't think it would be very well received, much less the idea of doing a DD swap.
Umm, Smiley???
You will have to ask DJ where "Smiley" comes from. It has to do with the antique truck show in Winchester this past summer. The topic came up prior to the 02:30 drunken burrito breakfast.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck "The Flag Pole" In the Stovebolt Gallery 1946 2-Ton grain truck 1946 3/4-ton pickup, 1953 1-ton pickup 1957 1-ton flatbed dually, 1954 Pontiac Straight Eight Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!
Aah yup. I recall the DJ's now infamous early morning ODSS breakfast bonanza. I even partook in at least two of said burrito delicacies myself. I don't remember the smiley reference though. Oh and, there was drinking going on then?.....Huh, I don't remember that either.
~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures 1959 GMC 860 | Pictures 1950 Chevrolet 3800 | Pictures I've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it!
Donald ... OP said the original question was answered, engine found. So the thread is fair game until the Moderator throws a flag on the play.
Besides all that .... you're one to talk about thread hijacking ... you are fairly proficient at it yourself.
Those b'fast burritos *were* tasty. It wasn't 0230, though. It was more like 9:45 pm. Stinks to grow up, eh?
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~ John
A kid raised on Hotwheels, Matchbox and Tonka cannot be reasonably expected to own only one vehicle as an adult.
1949 Chevrolet 3804 In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum 1973 IH 1310 Dump 1963 Kaiser M38A1 2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie" 2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck "The Flag Pole" In the Stovebolt Gallery 1946 2-Ton grain truck 1946 3/4-ton pickup, 1953 1-ton pickup 1957 1-ton flatbed dually, 1954 Pontiac Straight Eight Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!
Either DJ is slow to respond or too scared to do so, I will explain the "Smiley" reference as it applies to Mr. Marlow. It was indeed around 0230 when DJ and I were observing the general condition of the party members, when I asked the question, "How do you know when so-and-so is hammered?" We started with a member from PA who has locomotive history who always denies his state of abnormality. It was determined that his "tell" was the delay of his eyeballs coming around to look at you well after his head was facing you. So I asked DJ how do you know when Billy is in the groove? He said, "He can't stop smiling." At that moment, "Smiley" was born. It was determined that the "tell" of another esteemed member was that he becomes a close talker, with eyes wide open. And, as it turns out, he also loses all sense of time...
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Yea, well, I've had worse nicknames although I seriously doubt I was still up at 2:30 am. Perhaps your watch reading abilities are your "tell". As for your co-coconspiritor, I doubt he will have much to say as he had a pretty big-ol smile on his face slinging those delicious breakfast samachies around. But, I digress, all this is in good fun but the Assistant to the Camp Cooandant will be along shortly to threaten charges as, according to the ODSS bylaws, article 00, chapter 4, reads, "What happens in Winchester, stays in Whinchester".
Now, I wonder if my wife knows how to make a breakfast burrito.........🤔🤔
~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures 1959 GMC 860 | Pictures 1950 Chevrolet 3800 | Pictures I've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it!
Well , apparently I missed a heck of entertaining conversation by going to bed early that night . In the future I shall consider traveling during the day and having a good nights sleep before these events . If all goes well I'll be doing the trip with my replacement engine , a 1959 261 out a 2 ton truck that I paid a hefty amount for, that is in metric money, would be considerably less in U.S. funds. I hope to have that and some new improved paint installed in the engine bay before to long .
Yea, well, I've had worse nicknames although I seriously doubt I was still up at 2:30 am. Perhaps your watch reading abilities are your "tell". As for your co-coconspiritor, I doubt he will have much to say as he had a pretty big-ol smile on his face slinging those delicious breakfast samachies around. But, I digress, all this is in good fun but the Assistant to the Camp Cooandant will be along shortly to threaten charges as, according to the ODSS bylaws, article 00, chapter 4, reads, "What happens in Winchester, stays in Whinchester".
Duly noted, and guilty as charged on all charges. I will not be requesting the mercy of the court.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
I concur. They were stupendous,....from what I remember......🤔😃
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~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures 1959 GMC 860 | Pictures 1950 Chevrolet 3800 | Pictures I've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it!
If I get another chance to join one of your late night meetings? I'll bring the White Castles burgers, with horseradish mustard, extra onions and pickles.
Grew up two blocks from a White Castle. Guaranteed to cure you of what may make you feel bad the next morning!
Don
Edit: I forgot the Falstaff refreshments, to go with the burgers,
1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck "The Flag Pole" In the Stovebolt Gallery 1946 2-Ton grain truck 1946 3/4-ton pickup, 1953 1-ton pickup 1957 1-ton flatbed dually, 1954 Pontiac Straight Eight Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!