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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 | Working with a 1964 C10 original. Trying to help my nephew figure out if he needs a ballast resistor. Can someone tell me what years, in the 60’s, chevy put in the resistance wire? And the color? Thanks.
Six volt guy living in a twelve volt world
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,798 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,798 | Not sure about the exact years it was used, but a resistance wire is easy to recognize. Because of the heat it develops, the insulation is a braided fiberglass material, usually tan or dark brown in color. The wire is stiff, and only has a few strands, silvery in color. The (+) terminal at the coil will have this type of wire, plus a normal copper primary wire that can be traced to the "I" terminal on the starter solenoid. If you unwrap the covering on the engine wiring harness, you'll find that the resistance wire is very long, and doubles back on itself to have enough length to drop the voltage to the coil sufficiently.
During normal engine running, the voltage at the coil primary should be about 20% below battery terminal voltage. For instance, a 14.5 volt charging system voltage will drop to around 9.5-10 volts at the coil (+) terminal. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,832 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,832 | I see you're in Tennessee so you might consider just using a resister coil which does away with all the other wires and ballast resister and just requires a regular wire from ignition switch to the coil. You cannot have a 12v by-pass with a resister coil so if hard starting or very cold weather a by-pass is sometimes needed.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,951 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,951 | My 1963 and my 1965 1/2T C10 truck’s have factory resistor wires. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,455 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,455 | Resistance wire was used from 1960 thru 1974
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BC 1960 Chevy C10 driver 261 T5 4.10 dana 44 power loc 1949 GMC 250 project in waiting 1960 C60 pasture art Retired GM dealer tech. 1980 - 2022 | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,098 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,098 | 55.2 through 59 trucks used a ceramic type ballast resistor as did cars of that era. The resistance "wire" was introduced in the early 60's. Your 64 truck came with a resistance wire unless someone changed it out for some type of HEI system that requires a full 12 volts to operate. Fred
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| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 | Thanks as usual guys. I don’t have eyes on truck as it’s at the lake house. If the resistance wire is not disabled I will do it and install ballast.
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| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | It has a weird covering and kind of large OD. It is possibly yellowish with black stripe. Of course, as you know, it's easy to find. One end at coil, other at ignition switch. It is folded back on itself to get the required length. I abandoned it and used ballast R. My 1960 had it.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,798 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,798 | Spreading the resistance out over several feet of wire makes a lot more sense than concentrating it all in one place with a ceramic resistor. The heat of a ceramic resistor can cause burns if anyone touches it, and those resistors are much more prone to burn-out than the wire type resistor. Using the wire type voltage drop is a MUCH better choice. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 | Of course Jerry makes a good point about spreading the heat. I however am choosing to go the ballast resistor route. I have my reasons. If I were to bet on it, I would say the resistor wire is nichrome. The same wire you see glowing in electric heaters. I worked with nichrome building furnaces for metallurgical research in my youth. I remember it being hard to work with. Terminations are a pain.
Six volt guy living in a twelve volt world
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,798 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,798 | Yes, the wire is nichrome. Dropping around 3-5 volts over approximately 6 feet of wire does not create enough heat to jeopardize the rest of the wires in the harness, particularly when heat-resistant insulation is used. Crimp connectors used for nichrome wire have a much longer barrel section than connectors used for copper wire, and they require different tools to make a good, low-resistance connection. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2018 Posts: 112 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2018 Posts: 112 | Working with a 1964 C10 original. Trying to help my nephew figure out if he needs a ballast resistor. Can someone tell me what years, in the 60’s, chevy put in the resistance wire? And the color? Thanks. FWIW my '64 C20 came with the resistance wire. It's a Pink Fabric Insulated wire. So at least you can be sure it's correct for your (Nephews) rig.  HTH Chris
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