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#1314955 06/20/2019 2:15 AM
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This valve on the thermostat, does that block coolant from entering the heater core?
I tried to turn the valve by hand, but it's tight. How is this valve open and closed?
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1951 Chevy 3100 1/2 ton (1957 235, 4 speed, 411 rear)
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It is a valve to cut off the water to the heater. (The outlet comes out the bottom.)
Loosen the brass hex packing nut. Packing is probably gunked up. You should be able to turn handle once the brass nut is loosened up. Once you get it freed up, tighten the nut until it quits leaking.
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Yes, that's the heater shut-off valve, used to shut the flow off in the Summer.

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Yep, thats how manly men turned the heat on back in the day, LOL...
Heat that was an option btw....

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Thanks guys.
Does closing that valve to keep coolant from running through the heater core really lower the temp in the cab any?

Do these old heater cores not have insulation around them like the new cores to limit the heat dispersion?


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It prevents full engine temp coolant from flowing through the heater core. It would have to help some in keeping the cab cooler (maybe less hot would be a better term) than if engine temp coolant was present. How much it helps??? Beats me. I've got one on my '38 and have run it both ways. I've not been able to tell a difference. Now I just leave it on all the time.

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This may put it in perspective. I just took a road trip thru some hot country in my F250 7.3L diesel that has no AC. When it got over about 75F outside, when we stopped for a short time, and restarted, the fan would blow hot air into the cab from the heat built up in the heater box. The fix was to put a valve in the heater hose. That kept that blast of hot air from cooking us on startup. It did help with comfort.


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That valve being turned off in my '50 makes a huge difference in cab temperature.


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Thanks everybody. I'll do a before and after when I get everything back together.


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I can see where it might make a noticeable difference if you have a fresh air heater. You could have air crossing the core any time the vehicle moves. My '38 isn't a fresh air heater so to get the heat into the passenger compartment I have to turn the fan on. There may be a bit of convection heating with the fan off but not enough for me to notice it.


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"I can see where it might make a noticeable difference if you have a fresh air heater. "

I think the 1951 truck (JD's year) had either an optional/accessory Recirculating Heater or a Fresh-Air/Air-Flow heater?

The Fresh-Air/Air-Flow heater (from Jim Carter) had a coolant flow valve (a "Ranco Heater Control Valve") mounted on the engine side of the firewall. (the interior part of the valve is shown in a photo in JC's article)

The Recirculating Heater had no coolant-flow valve.

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Originally Posted by tclederman
I may be wrong - if so, please correct me.

You are not wrong.


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I know nothing about what heater is in his truck or what was available. My point is as I stated, in MY vehicle it makes little difference whether the valve is open or closed because air only flow across the core with the fan on. IF his vehicle has the same type of heater his experience would likely be the same.

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OK, Tiny
He is talking about his 1951 truck.
Sorry - I was trying to help him.
What kind of heater do you have in your 1938 truck?
Presumably, it does not have an "automatic" Ranco heater control valve (as was available in in the "deluxe" heaters 1951)?

JD, what style heater do you have in your truck?
Recirculating - no Ranco valve
Air Flow - Ranco valve
Fresh Air - Ranco valve
Other, non-GM

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I have a recirculating heater - no ranco valve.

FYI - I was able to open and close the valve once I loosen the nut.


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