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The top vendors are selling a 4X4 decal for 1960 Chevy. Same T-221 transfer case as my GMC. This Decal is wrong. All the way forward with shifter is 2WD. I have pics of my original 1960 truck's decal. Pics of other 1960 original truck decals. They are not what the vendors are selling. J. Carter, Classic Trucks, LMC, etc. This could be VERY dangerous. This could cause serious damage having the lever in the wrong place. I bought the sticker from Classic Trucks months ago, installed it and was happy. Then today when test driving my truck, I tried to match the decal and...... no dice. I had forgotten what the original shift pattern decal looked like until I looked up my old pictures of my interior. The T-221 Rockwell Tcase is: forward= 2WD, 4 Hi, N, 4Lo........the one being sold for 55-63 is: forward= 4Lo, N, 2WD, 4Hi. Classic Parts Part Number 32-021. However, this pattern is stated in the 1963 Chevy Truck Shop Manual. I don't know why. That is the big mystery. This is also the NP205 shift pattern. Which was not introduced until about 70-71. Then they stopped using the decal because the pattern was on the knob. Are there different Timken/Rockwell T-221 shift patterns?
Just a heads up for 60-66 guys. I may be missing some details but be warned! This pattern may be only for early T-221/SM420 combo's. Not sure.
Found one pretty near like my original. Just the colors are off a little. Listed as "67-72 Suburban AT 4WD Shift Pattern Decal"..... Classic Truck Parts Part Number 32-042.... Weird. The vendors all read the same Wiki somewhere years ago....or their supplier is mixed up.


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2WD all the way forward makes sense as that's the way the truck is driven 90+% of the time, putting the shift lever out of the way. My F250 is that way.

Someone needs to fix that decal, although it probably wouldn't take long for someone to figure out they're in 4x4 Lo. If the wheels were turned, it would crow hop like mad, and the engine would wind up high for the speed.

I'm guessing someone printed the figures upside down. wink

If the linkage were reversed, it would match the sticker. (t-case lever on top instead of below the shaft)

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I wrote to Classic. We will see what they say. I know they don't have a clue but........
Maybe folks with 60-66 4X4's can all chime in with what sticker they have and what lever position actually is 2WD. This is the place for a true study of what is right for which year. Hope all with participate.


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66 chevy T221. Original drivetrain. 2WD is full forward on the lever. Seated up out of the way of your knees and passengers. Picture of decal in original cab. Maybe cant see the 2WD text but can see the wheel depiction. Mirrors the proper shift pattern. Checked the new decal I purchased some time ago. It is correct. I dont recall which vendor I used for that particular order. I usually go with American classic parts, but have used Truck shop and LMC on occasion. The truck shop catalog has a decal that shows the correct pattern.
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Thanks HB.

There are Napco's, Factory Napco's and Factory 4WD Chevys and GMC's. Spicer 23 and Rockwell T-221. So these decal sellers have Napco mixed in with GM factory shift patterns. GM decided to use the Rockwell T-221 when they "built their own" 4X4. So Spicer 23 was gone in 1/2T in 1960.

There is also a Black Metal Plate for Napco Powr-Pak.



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new decal pictured in packaging if the numbers help.
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Thank you very much for posting that pic. It is a great example that vendors do not have a clue on some of their parts. This is an LMC Truck part number. In 2005 they listed it as a one year only decal, 1967. In 2015 they listed it as 62-66. Today 38-0076 is no longer in the catalog.

In the TF era, NAPCO used mostly Spicer 23 T case, with a few T221's. In 1960 GM chose T221 for factory 4X4, but a few Spicer 23's were made. So for those trucks, there are two different shift patterns/decals possible. The shift lever is right of 4 sp for Spicer 23 and left of 4 sp for Rockwell-Timken T-221. That's why you will see 4X4's in early 60-61 with them on either side.


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