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#1274169 07/28/2018 8:26 PM
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I have a 1966 C-60. I recently bought another 66 C-60, for parts. The cab is in better shape, thinking about changing the Cabs, I ask this Question in another thread and got Scolded. Maybe I did not phrase it properly. When changing Cabs, I now know the VIN stay with the Cab. So would the proper way be to Register the VIN for that Cab. I have a bill of Sale but no Title for the recent purchase. How do most who restore these old trucks go about, this. File for lost title for that Vin and Register that VIN. I have Insurance on, Registered for Highway Use on the Cab that I am thinking about replacing. What is the Proper way most go about this? Not asking for Illegal Methods, but the proper way most restore such Vehicles. Is it Worth it, or I should just replace the none numbered parts of the cab rather than change the whole cab?

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Here is my suggestion and hopefully it will save you some time and grief. I see you are from Texas, so, contact Texas DPS and explain what you are wanting to do. They are the ones who have to approve it thus you need to comply with what Texas wants. Some States use the #s from the metal tags on the cab door frames and some use the motor #s. I would think either one of your ideas would work, filing for a lost title and change the cab or just use good parts from the cab w/o title. Good luck with your project.


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Thanks Justhorsenround. Sorry about getting off on the wrong foot in the other thread. Have not been on here in Five years. Was not sure where to post my Question. I was not looking for any illegal Advice, but was not sure how most do a cab change, what is considered the accepted, proper and legal way without a whole lot of hassle. Would like to keep the Truck as Original as possible. The parts truck and the Truck I have had are the same year, same month. So year model, as far as the two trucks does not matter. But the VIN year is used for most Chassis parts replacement. Was not sure if it was the chassis that matter the most or the Cab, as most Parts changes/replacements involve the Chassis parts. And proper Number for the Chassis would be important. Kind of like the old, 'One Piece At A Time' by Johnny Cash: "But up there at the court house they didn't laugh".

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I bought a complete 1966 C10 here in SC. Not saying that things work here in SC the same way as TX, but here's my story.
1966 C10 without a Title. No paperwork at all.
SC DMV will not allow a private individual to apply for ownership of an abandoned vehicle (although they used to allow this).
So I took the C10 to a repair shop near me. As a business, the repair shop could claim it was an abandoned vehicle and apply for ownership.
I hired a lady to do all the paperwork since I didn't want to burden the shop owner with paperwork. He was doing me a favor.
Took about 3 months to clear all the paperwork and have the Magistrate assign ownership to the shop owner. Police had to come see the truck and record the VIN and then search every state for possible "stolen vehicle". I knew it wasn't stolen because I bought it from the son of the original owner (who had passed long ago).
Shop owner took proof of ownership to DMV and a new title was assigned to the truck in his name.
He sold the truck to me for $1. Meanwhile, I helped scratch his back by selling off a lot of unused NOS inventory he had laying around the shop.
Took better part of 6 months and cost me about $200 of pocket money. Shop owner didn't have to lift a finger except for the trip to the DMV to get the title in his name.

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I want to reassure readers of my prior post that what I did was within the law here in SC. In SC, the vehicle must be ON THE PROPERTY of the business owner. It was for over 6 months and during the entire paperwork process. The shop owner had every legal right to ask the court to assign him ownership. Once the shop owner had a SC title in his name, he was free to keep it as his own or sell it.
I was guided through the entire process by a towing company that does this on a routine basis with abandoned vehicles that they tow off of someone’s property. They try to collect towing and storage fees from the owner. When the owner of the vehicle doesn’t pay the towing and storage fees, then the towing company is assigned ownership by the court using the exact same process I went through. The same towing company has also done the paperwork for the repair shop many times when people won’t pay the repair bill for their car. I’m an honest guy who did things according to the law.

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz
I bought a complete 1966 C10 here in SC. Not saying that things work here in SC the same way as TX, but here's my story.
1966 C10 without a Title. No paperwork at all.
SC DMV will not allow a private individual to apply for ownership of an abandoned vehicle (although they used to allow this).
So I took the C10 to a repair shop near me. As a business, the repair shop could claim it was an abandoned vehicle and apply for ownership.
I hired a lady to do all the paperwork since I didn't want to burden the shop owner with paperwork. He was doing me a favor.
Took about 3 months to clear all the paperwork and have the Magistrate assign ownership to the shop owner. Police had to come see the truck and record the VIN and then search every state for possible "stolen vehicle". I knew it wasn't stolen because I bought it from the son of the original owner (who had passed long ago).
Shop owner took proof of ownership to DMV and a new title was assigned to the truck in his name.
He sold the truck to me for $1. Meanwhile, I helped scratch his back by selling off a lot of unused NOS inventory he had laying around the shop.
Took better part of 6 months and cost me about $200 of pocket money. Shop owner didn't have to lift a finger except for the trip to the DMV to get the title in his name.
In my opinion:
The favor they did you is called circumventing the law and can be total illegal. You bought the truck, you were the owner who is not allowed to apply, as you said. So you did a "Strawman transaction". Going "around the law" is circumventing the law. We understand that the towing shop did a legal application, But they did not do it on a vehicle that was towed or obtained by them. They did it for you, as you said. They, and you, colluded to get the truck to you with a title. You can't frost this onion. You are an honest guy who is blinded by the fact that it went thru the DMV.

Do you think the DMV had this in mind when they disallowed private owners to apply for abandon vehicles? I hope they don't read this because a whole lot of people could be in trouble. They don't want private parties to do it for whatever reason. They don't want them to do it anyway by your method either. You can bet on that.
I politely PM'ed you in private about this and you rejected my opinion and posted a double-down. So I am posting my opinion in public. You did do something outside what I believe Stovebolt would recommend. It is not a good suggestion to others. We can all think of ways to trick the DMV in our state.





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Bartamos,
I respect your opinion. However, I do not agree with it.

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Now that everyone has voiced an opinion, and we appear to be disagreeing agreeably (thank you, Lugnutz smile for the excellent example. Thank you Bart, in advance, for showing some class and letting it end here), let's all move on and get back about our business.

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz
Bartamos,
I respect your opinion. However, I do not agree with it.

No hard feelings. Thank you Lugnutz.


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