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Hello all;

I have searched the web and the Stovebolt site and I have not been able to find any info on the electronics. I did find an exploded view of the horn, but it does not say, or show, any electrical parts.
I am attempting to repair my horn which was not working. Long story short, but I would like some help identifying the electronic guts of the horn. There is either a resistor or a capacitor wired in parallel with the power to the coil. I thought it was a resistor, but the electronic store guy was sure it was a capacitor after looking at the horn.
The offending item looks like rolled foil with an insulating medium to separate the layers. Wires are soldered on at the ends of the rolls. Mine seems to have overheated and the insulating medium, tar, must have overheated and leaked out.

If anyone could offer some advice or direction, that would be great.
Thanks,
Steve


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That would indeed be a capacitor. If it was shorting then it could easily heat up rapidly. I don't know the value of that capacitor off hand but maybe someone else does. There is also an adjustment on the points.The horn operates much like a door bell or buzzer.


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Here is a link to a previous (2014) thread about the horns:
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1036816/1.html

Steve H fron UT posted a link to the Truck Manual electrical listing which only lists one
capacitor in the truck electrical circuit. In answer to that Bill Flxible North of the 49th posted
that he’d never seen a capacitor in the horn circuit.
I posted back:
Bill if you take the horn apart, there is a flat paper wound condenser in there, it's part of the
LC circuit and determines what the circuit will resonate at. To small and the tone will be too
high, to large and it will be too low. Don't know what just right is but it shouldn't be too difficult
to try a few to see what sounds best, they're dirt cheap. But you are correct about the .2mf
cap listed, it's the one across the points in the distributor.DG.

Try starting out with something around 47 or .68 microfarad with a voltage rating of 250V.
Adjust the spring tension on the contact to get the circuit to resonate with the new cap.
Pix of the original cap:
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/155174087
Denny G
Also, if you want to pursue it further, here is an excellent paper describing the film capacitor
as applied to a Klaxon horn. Although it won't give you a specific value it should better explain
it's function in the internal circuit:
http://www.dekielectronics.com/pdf/deki-application-notes-film-capacitors-in-automotive-horns.pdf
dg

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Just a little more info on those Delco-Remy Klaxon horns.
This is page one of three, just click next for the other two:
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/167602500
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Hello;

Thanks for all the great info. I will be sure to report back what my issue was.

Regards,
Steve


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Good day folks.
Well I cleaned up the horn and replaced some wires in it and the capacitor. I have tested it and set the gaps on it so it sounds good. I am not sure there was anything wrong with it to begin with.....
As I go to re-install it and test the horn button, I am not sure the wiring was ever re-connected in the steering column!!
There are live wires to the horn, but I am struggling to figure out where they are going as I cannot find any wires going to the horn switch.

I guess I will be playing the wiring game for a bit...

Steve


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If I remember correctly the horn button supply's ground when pushed. That's probably what you need.


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