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#1261988 04/09/2018 5:07 PM
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I having trouble with a couple of my wheel studs on my 53 3100. I have about 3 of them that are no longer press fit into the hubs, they will come out with hand pressure. They will still tighten up and have no issues with them spinning, but it makes it difficult to put the wheel on. If you bump the loose stud it will push out of the hub. Last year I took the hub off and center punched around the holes of the lose studs and it helped but it still needs more attention. I have looked for a wheel stud with a tad bigger knurled section but not having a lot of luck. Napa didn't stock anything but had some they could order but the guy wasn't sure it was what I needed. I thought of cleaning them up REAL good and giving some red locktight a try. Anyone ran into this issue yet?


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green lock-tite stud lock, the bottle I have is #640.


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Read thru this Wheel Stud thread.
You should determine what type of studs you have, Swedged or knurled and replace them with the correct type.
In this case, Loc-tite is a band-aid only.


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Those hubs aren't scarce or expensive- - - - -just change the hub.
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Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
Those hubs aren't scarce or expensive- - - - -just change the hub.
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I was trying to get by for a while without changing the hub, that's all. I'm building another frame for the truck to use later on. Just wanting to keep her drivable in the mean time.


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You could go totally redneck on it and weld the studs in place. grin


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Originally Posted by Larry1974
I was trying to get by for a while without changing the hub, that's all. I'm building another frame for the truck to use later on. Just wanting to keep her drivable in the mean time.
If that's the case, then put it back together as is and don't have any flat tires until you change everything out later on.


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Use a stack of flat washers and the flat side of a lug nut to hold the studs square with the wheel mounting surface, and braze (not weld) the head of the stud to the hub. That method will hold until your great-grandkids inherit the truck.
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Jerry

Wondering why you say "braze (not weld)". headscratch

I would think a couple of quick tacks with a mig gun would introduce less heat stress into the hub than brazing with a torch, which would take more time to get up to brazing temp because of the quenching effect of the mass of the hub.

Good tip on the washers and nut to keep it aligned while welding (or brazing).


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I will give that a shot. I had thought of brazing the hole lightly and pressing the studs back in.


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Why not just re-drill the hub and press in new studs or tap them for full thread studs?


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Originally Posted by klhansen
Jerry

Wondering why you say "braze (not weld)". headscratch

A tack weld will create one stress point that will break away quickly. Brass (properly applied) will flow around the knurled section of the stud and reinforce the stud/hub bond without getting the assembly hot enough to change the strength of either the hub or the studs.

Last edited by Hotrod Lincoln; 04/12/2018 1:00 AM.

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