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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 | I know this has been covered before, but Im curious what is needed to bag a stock 51 truck on original frame?
please post pics, and say what you bought etc.
thank you fellas
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | It requires a REALLY big sack, and lift carefully so it doesn't tear. "Paper or plastic?"
Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,442 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,442 | HiPo Shop forum not general truck talk. Jerry, maybe one of those big green bags you see at construction sites?
Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily)
‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence)
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,597 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,597 | My only comment is why? Do not count me among the leg pullers. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,554 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,554 | I've never done this to a truck,but if you google airbag a 1947-1954 chevy truck, you'll have some reading to do. looks like ecklers has a kit to do it. air bag kit Good luck with your project,post some pictures after you slamm your truck.
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 |
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,442 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,442 | Hope you know we are just pulling your leg. I've never seen one bagged with original suspension. Usually ifs and 4 link.
Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily)
‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence)
“I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop!
USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | " . . . what is needed to bag a stock 51 truck on original frame . . . "
I tried to bag (and label) all my parts, but after my move from NY to NC, I am still looking for all the boxes with those labelled bags. I needed a few hundred bags. Use permanent ink markers - clearly/completely label the bags with indelible ink markers.
(sorry) | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | They wanted to sell me a passenger's side airbag. I told 'em I've had as passenger's side windbag for years!
Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 | thanks for all the help guys
It aint a hobby it's a lifestyle!
LIFERS C.C.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Sorry, juspassinthru,
If you find the info you need on bagging a 47-55 1/2 ton truck with original frame, and you undertake the project, please post your progress report here.
It would be interesting to see the "end-product" and a driveability report. I do not recall anyone posting the outcome of such a project.
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | I can't find a picture of mine installed but here are the brackets I made for my 2 ton for front air springs, I'm using them as helper springs. https://goo.gl/photos/x8uvet8NAVJCW32KAThey bolt in using the original holes for bump stops and the bags I chose have an internal bump stop. I'm using a front axle with an additional 2" of drop and custom springs with 2" of lift to get back to normal, this also helps make room for the air helper springs. Grigg | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | I do not recall anyone posting the outcome of such a project. That's probably because the vast majority of those projects never make it to the road. They either get scrapped, or wrecked pretty soon because the handling is so lousy. Trailer them to the car show and haul 'em home again so they don't become a road hazard for the rest of the driving public. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | I agree, Jerry
But, if someone has successfully bagged and tagged (registered with inspection) an A-D truck, that would be interesting to see. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | I saw a relatively late model Dodge Charger last Friday, sitting in a parking lot with the rocker panels literally touching the ground. It also had a "For Sale" sign on it. I wonder why?
Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Forgot that I have rear air bags on my 2 ton as well, guess that makes it fully bagged??  https://goo.gl/photos/rFojva5bnQRGDE188Anyhow, Tim I do have it registered, insured, tag on it, and I've driven it on the road some. Definitely not anything related to the air bags keeping me from driving it more often, it's the body that's the problem, not even close to finished. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Good-looking setup, Grigg! Just one problem- - - -how are you gonna "lay frame" like the lowriders do, with the frame ABOVE the axle?! !! ! ! !
LOL!
Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | ...How low can you go, Grigg (that's the cool-factor question)? I'd have to get out the yardstick... I was hoping for nothing lower than stock. Isn't stock cool too? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Cool enough for me.
Even bagged low-riders can look cool.
Some readers envisioned a bagged, adjustable-height, low-rider, using the original frame (original frame, like yours, as requested in first post). | | | | | Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 22 | everyone is entitled to their opinion I have had several air ride equipped daily drivers.As for the reason why??
its adjustable! making all driving conditions possible.stock height AD trucks handle horrible in every way, body roll in turns and look goofy as [censored] with the fenderwell gaps even with 16" wheels.
To each their own, some folks like bone stock trucks.I prefer mine a bit lower than that.I could care less about laying frame
It aint a hobby it's a lifestyle!
LIFERS C.C.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | I do not recall anyone posting the outcome of such a project. "That's probably because the vast majority of those projects never make it to the road." 10,000+ daily driven air-ride miles so far.....  I'll be honest it's not been without its problems,actually caused by a crappy installation of both front and rear set-ups in the first place.....(not by me I might add)
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1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | I bagged the rear of my '37 GMC 2 ton for a better ride, used 2 bags off a Kenworth 4 bag system.
Ed
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 21 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 21 | Look up these guys they do it all the time her in Cali.https://www.facebook.com/teagardenmuffler/ | | | | | Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 323 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 323 | I never have understood pan dragers .in the 70s we hated low riders mainly because they had all our batteries in there trunk.
These old bolts are in my blood. Hard thing is focusing on just one.
1937 Chevy 1/2 ton panel
1953 GMC 2 ton. future car hauler
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | I never have understood pan dragers .in the 70s we hated low riders mainly because they had all our batteries in there trunk. Each to their own and all that... I run a 4 way air ride on my '50. It's not a pan dragger but can get down pretty low ,this is it at ride height. The road conditions here are pretty rural at best but the air-ride does make things a bit more tolerable,I'd have NO teeth left if it was still on leaf springs.....
1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | Jockbolter- Is that a Jeep rearend in your truck? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Jockbolter- Is that a Jeep rearend in your truck? No Sir,it's a Borg Warner 'metric' unit from a Gen-3 Firebird. It was a swap meet special but thankfully the I.D. tag was still attached to one of the diff cover bolts. It's 3.27:1 ratio with Posi and as you've probably seen,disc brakes. If you saw my Flickr pics I have also changed out the bespoke diagonal 4 link to a parallel one from Dannys Original Customs in Ca. The diagonal link wasn't very well done and caused some serious pucker moments while driving at speed! Strangely the axle with the cast iron calipers have one leading and one trailing so there has been some interference issues with the parking brake arm on the left hand side. With the new four link the axle mounts foul the actuator arm for the left hand parking brake which is the trailing one. Although i've noticed the ones with alloy calipers both lead,so will try and find some to convert it when funds and time allow. Frankly it's a little tired too (a bit clunky when selecting gears) but a rebuild kit for this particular one seems to be also the most expensive and elusive,at least here in Blighty.
1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
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