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TESTING If your gauge reads FULL AT ALL TIMES:
A. Probable Causes 1. Wire from dash gauge to sending unit is broken and/or the connection is corroded (not making a good electrical connection). 2. Resistance wire inside sending unit is broken 3. Sending unit is not properly grounded to tank or tank is not properly grounded to chassis
B. Testing 1. Remove the wire from the contact stud on the sending unit and ground it to the chassis. If the gauge now reads Empty, the trouble is either poor grounding of the sender or a bad sending unit. 2. If the gauge still reads Full, touch a grounded test wire to the sending unit terminal on the back of the dash gauge. This terminal is often marked with a red tag. If the gauge now reads Empty, the wire from the dash to the sending unit is broken or the connection to the dash gauge is corroded. 3. With the sender removed from the tank, connect an ohm meter to the sending unit (one lead to the contact stud and one to the housing) and check the resistance of the sender as you manually raise and lower the arm. This reading should be 0 to 30 ohms (or very close). 4. If none of these tests finds the problem, the dash gauge is the problem and should be rebuilt or replaced.
C. Repairs 1. Make sure that a good ground is present at the dash gauge and also at the sending unit. Run a separate ground wire to the chassis if necessary. 2. Sliding contact arm may not make good contact to the resistance wire windings in sender. If you are experienced with electrical repairs you may be able to clean the wiper and resistance wire coil or replace the wire. Otherwise send the unit to a specialist or replace the unit. 3. Check for good ground at sender body and gas tank.
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Sounds like a possible impedance mismatch issue to me.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Sounds like a possible impedance mismatch issue to me. Good suggestion, TIny txpete, You have had this problem since you got the truck - you have not had the truck all its life? Someone could have used a newer sender (1965 or newer for GM, which had different impedance 0-90 ohm vs earlier 0-30 ohm). | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 206 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 206 | Thanks for all the great problem solving answeres | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Let us know what the problem was so we can save it in our memory bank for ourselves and others. That's all we ask.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 206 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 206 | Thank you sir but my gauge does not read full all the rime, it reads way past ful ( of the gauge) when full and half tank when empty. Any ideas? Could the needle be on gauge wrong? | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | can't 'adjust' the gauge needle, more likely what Carl indicated, need to bend the float arm to read correct - when you pull the float out check it by hand operation to insure it's got the full range of movement and reads correctly, might just be a bad'un
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Did you read my post about impedance? Are you running a 30 ohm sender and a 30 gauge?
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