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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | A correct gauge patch is what I do. A washer with a smaller hole then weld it closed will do. I cut a small piece of metal and butt weld it in, then grind everything smooth. A dime size hole is small enough to actually fill it in with weld if you are good. | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 | A correct gauge patch is what I do. A washer with a smaller hole then weld it closed will do. I cut a small piece of metal and butt weld it in, then grind everything smooth. A dime size hole is small enough to actually fill it in with weld if you are good. In any case, (good or not so good) a copper backer bar helps quite a bit for filling holes. (Happy Birthday, Deve  )
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Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Saw a "magnetic copper backer" from Eastwood on Youtube that looks promising... what kind of welder would I use? Deve, what do you mean by "correct gauge patch" and where do I find them? Will google it.. thanks, for the input.. I was thinking of Bondo or some some kind of fiberglass patch/filler. Thanks, Scott | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 | Saw a "magnetic copper backer" from Eastwood on Youtube that looks promising... what kind of welder would I use? Deve, what do you mean by "correct gauge patch" and where do I find them? Will google it.. thanks, for the input.. I was thinking of Bondo or some some kind of fiberglass patch/filler. Thanks, Scott Here's what I got. http://www.amazon.com/Durston-Manuf...true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00. It's probably about the same as Eastwood would sell, but for less money. The only issue I have had with it is if there's lots of curvature in the panel, it's sometimes tough to get the pad flat against where you're welding. There are others that are a slab of copper with a handle attached, but you usually need a third hand to use one of those. You could make one of those from a piece of copper pipe that you flatten with a hammer. Copper pipe is available at about any hardware store or plumbing shop. By "correct gauge" Deve meant cutting a patch from a piece of sheet metal of the proper (matching) thickness. A MIG or TIG welder works best for welding light metal. Bondo/Fiberglass would a less preferable option, IMO.
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Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | Yup. Really any piece of metal that is close would do. Part of an old fender, or just about anything can serve as a patch as long as the metals are the same for welding. I use this for the copper backing when I can: http://www.harborfreight.com/welding-spoon-66785.htmlAny piece of copper will do. Of course, if you don't have a piece of copper, just hold the piece to the hole with vise grips or something, tack it in place, then finish. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Wow, great advice... since this is not something that I see myself doing after these two hole, any recommendation for a "cheap" welder to do this job? Thanks, Scott | | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | no! A cheap welder is a waste of money. If it costs you $300 or more for the welder, just take it to a welding shop and have them do it. You get a professional job and you don't have some junk tool lying around. MHO | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 | no! A cheap welder is a waste of money. If it costs you $300 or more for the welder, just take it to a welding shop and have them do it. You get a professional job and you don't have some junk tool lying around. MHO Agree 100%. I had a cheapo flux core welder that I sold off when I started this project. The old one wasn't good for much more than putting bird $#!^ on metal. Even if you bought a decent MIG setup, that wouldn't be the first job I'd tackle anyway.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | I am going to borrow a friends Mig welder and after a tutorial and practice will fill those holes referenced above. Any recommendation as to kind of "filler material" I would use? Thanks, Scott | | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | Just the wire that comes out of the MIG wand. Your friend would probably have it loaded. DO practice. In this case very low setting with medium wire speed. It is very easy to blow holes in your dash instead of fixing it. | | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | just take your time, and KEEP IT COOL!!!!!! if it's too hot to touch, then it's too hot to weld. also, do small tack welds, not one continuous weld, it may take a little more time, but the results will be worth your extra effort. Richard 
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,002 | If you have an unrestorable fender laying around, you could use a piece of that. Another handy tool is a welder's magnet Like these It will hold your plug in place till you get it tack welded. If you're talking filler metal for the welder, you want steel wire of course. Your buddy should have the right stuff.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Thanks for all the advice. At this point, I will see if epoxy putty will do the job. Will update. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Epoxy putty seems to have worked great. AFter one hour, was able to sand and cut it with Dremel tool. Paint today. | | |
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