BUSY BOLTERS Are you one? The Shop Area
continues to pull in the most views on the Stovebolt. In August alone there were over 22,000 views in those 13 forums.
| | Click on image for the lowdown. 
====
| | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,270 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | In the process of fixing the brakes on my '50 4100. It has 15"x3" drums on the back with a single wheel cylinder and integrated emergency brake. The truck sat for nearly 40 years so everything is pretty well stuck. The wheels turn - but the adjustment is very close and I cannot get the drums off as a result. I am not familiar with the inards on these brakes. Anyone got any tricks I can use to get these things apart without tearing everything up? What I'd really like to see is some good pictures of what one of these brake assemblies looks like the drum off. Might help me come up with my own game plan.
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 910 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 910 | My son's 46 2 ton. Rear drums would not pull off.
I turned the brake adjusters counter clockwise to back off the shoes and increase the shoe to drum clearance.
Then the drums came off easy.
| | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | I just fought the brake drums on my 81 toyota... totally different vehicle i know, but i had the same symptoms. wheel would spin, but drum wouldn't move.
It took quite a while but i used a propane torch and a hammer. heating around the the inside of the lugs then knocking around the perimeter of the drum.. heat, beat, repeat until it finally broke loose. Good luck!
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | The problem I have is that the adjusters are seized because the truck has been sitting up for 40 years. I have been working on and studying this problem for 2 days now. This evening I drilled a single 1/2" hole in the front of the brake drum at the same level as the wheel cylinder/adjuster and was able to start busting up the wheel cylinder with a hammer and a punch. Eventually I'll have it broke apart enough that the shoes will relax and I will be able to get the drum off. I was also able to get my bore scope through that hole so that I could assess the situation. I did try penetrating oil and a hammer and punch on the adjusters from the front side but with no luck. Eventually one of the adjusters cracked and broke. It really killed me to have to destroy those wheel cylinders, but it's the least invasive option. I can replace them, its just going to cost me a small fortune.
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Do those drums have slotted head, counter sunk screws that hold them to the axle flange?
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | These are not floating drums John. The drum is physically attached to the wheel hub and comes off the spindle as an assembly. The reason I cannot get them off is because the shoe adjustment is very close and there is a ridge or a rusted area on the inboard part of the brake surface that is acting as a 'stop'. The adjusters are seized and I cannot back them off off in order to create clearance between the shoe and the drum.
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 | Remove the outer bearing so you can rock the drum back and forth. | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | I have sometimes been able to carefully spray penetrating oil in through the adjusting slot in the backing plate and then after a couple days, tap on the adjuster tangs and get it to break free. | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | I have done all of the above guys. IT SAT FOR 40 YEARS.
Also, it has the Huck style brakes on it, unlike a Bendix brake, the shoes are very secure. You can't waller them out of position like you can with a Bendix type brake.
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | Sorry, can't help on this one. | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | If I'm in the mood whenever I get ready to start on the other side I may make a video of how I am going about doing this. Maybe it'll save someone else some frustration in the future. I was pleased with my results on the first one.
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 89 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 89 | on my 46 2-ton i put the wheel back on to help get the drum off, all together its heavy, but gives you something to push and pull on and i eventually got them off.
1946 Chevrolet 2-ton
| | |
| |