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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,781 Posts1,039,301 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | have a 235 in my 53 1/2 ton. Yesterday replaced the car carb with a rebuilt truck 235 carb from Classic Parts. Difficult starting. Sputters and backfires. Got it going yesterday and had a nice idle for 10 minutes. This morning just sputters and I flooded it. Will check later. Any thoughts? Thanks, Scott | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 843 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 843 | the new carb. may shoot more fuel from the accelerator pump than the old one did. If you usually pump the gas pedal before you start,,try not doing that,or not to the floor.If you have a manual choke,don't pull it fully closed to start. If the choke is automatic, it may need less tension on the bi-metal spring. | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Well this morning, 1/2 choke out, no gas pedal, turned over quickly but sputtered. Adjust the fast idle screw? thanks, Scott | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | maybe it is flooding out or the choke cable is messed up I could start my 52 well below freezing with no choke at all pat the pedal a couple of times and fired right up.. try it without pulling the choke out..pour a little gas in the carb, or try some starting fluid,at least it is firing, that is a plus.. dont try to make it to complicated..
play with the gas pedal, it can act as your fast idle
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Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 285 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 285 | | | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 135 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 135 | Did the truck start hard before the carburetor was replaced? | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 | Full choke- - - -crank until the engine fires without stepping on the gas pedal, then push the choke knob partway in as soon as the engine starts running. Most people don't use enough choke with a cold engine, or they leave it closed too long and flood. After a few starts you'll get a feel for how much to release the choke to get a smooth warmup. Within a minute or two (with a good heat riser) the engine should idle smoothly with little or no choke. An engine that starts cold with no choke is running WAY too rich! Jerry
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| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,715 Carburetion specialist | Carburetion specialist Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,715 | How did the engine start prior to changing the carburetor??? Weak ignition is the culprit as often (maybe more so) as a defective carburetor. If the ignition is defective, changing or adjusting the carburetor will not help the ignition. I have solved many "carburetor starting issues" by hooking a jumper cable from the ground terminal of the battery to a wire-brushed head bolt  Chokes were put on carburetors for a reason.....to aid in cold starting and help atomize the fuel prior to the engine acquiring normal temperature. As Jerry stated, an engine that will start cold without the aid of the choke is way too rich, and costing fuel economy, possibly even doing damage to the engine. Carburetion 101 - there are three ways to improve the atomization of fuel: (1) heat, (2) air velocity, and (3) additional fuel i.e. choke. Jon. Good carburetion is fuelish hot airThe most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes!The Carburetor Shop | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | With the previous car carb truck fired right up. Checked the point gap- ok, 1 piston fires. Wondering if the air fuel mixture is off.. Will try again. | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Choke all the way in- no choke- fired right up but sputtered. Gas pedal to floor. Sputtered for about 30 seconds then died. Thoughts? Thanks. Jerry, in moring will give full choke and start as you suggest above. | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Tried this morning. No choke, Fired rtigt up but sputtered for 30 seconds then died. Gas pedal to floor. | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Tried this morning. No choke, Fired rtigt up but sputtered for 30 seconds then died. Gas pedal to floor. | | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Sorry for the multiple posts. Didn't think original went through.
| | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | What do the spark plugs look like after it fails to stay running?
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 | Why do I bother offering advice when the exact opposite starting procedure is attempted? Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 307 | Noticed that. Appreciate the advice. Pulled 1 plug and it was pretty black. | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | Black deposits (sooty) usually indicates that way too much fuel is being delivered. I suggest a complete rebuild of the carburetor by someone very familiar with your type of carburetor. That person could actually be you if you put enough time into learning it. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 | put the old one back on. If it works don't fix it. That way old, very good advice. I am an industrial mechanic, and that is almost a mantra at work.
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