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| | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,272 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | Does anyplace like Summet or Jegs sell ring&pinion sets for my truck?1958 GMC1/2ton.Patrick's seems atad high.I think I have the 6cyl, 3.90 rear , 3speed manual BW OD setup.Didn't know if it would benefit me any? Thanks,
Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | A 3.90 rear ratio is perfect for your overdrive. You don't need a higher ratio. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Any higher gear ratio will be too high to use the OD, and no, there are not any other sources for the 3.55 gears. They're all made by a single supplier in China, I believe. Mothertrucker has a better price than the other vendors for the same gearset since he made a volume purchase from the manufacturer. A better price won't make the gears work any better with an overdrive transmission. The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the higher gear in OD. Jerry
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Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 250 Haunting the SBP since 2001 | Haunting the SBP since 2001 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 250 | Does anyplace like Summet or Jegs sell ring&pinion sets for my truck?1958 GMC1/2ton.Patrick's seems atad high.I think I have the 6cyl, 3.90 rear , 3speed manual BW OD setup.Didn't know if it would benefit me any? Thanks, MT still has the best price around on the 3.38:1 gears for the 1955-1962 1/2 ton trucks..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-ton-truck-3-38-1-highway-gears.1013374/. | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | would the Chevy 3.38 gearset even work in a GMC rear? ... I thought the 5-9 GMCs had a factory 3.07 rear gearBill | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 250 Haunting the SBP since 2001 | Haunting the SBP since 2001 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 250 | would the Chevy 3.38 gearset even work in a GMC rear? ... I thought the 5-9 GMCs had a factory 3.07 rear gearBill MT just said that they only offer gears for Chevy trucks. They Do Not get involved with parts for the oddball GMC trucks. And he stated that he was under the impression that the 55-62 GMC's used 3.90 gears originally & the weird 3.07 gears were only used in Hydramatic equipped trucks. I don't support it.... I only report it. | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 | I believe the 3.07 is a Spicer rear end. These gears will not work in a Spicer.
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | It seems to get somewhat confusing as to what you might find under a GMC 1/2 ton. Even the factory literature contradicts itself. I've found one that lists the Spicer 45 as the 3.07 and the HO33 as the 3.90 depending on option, but another source that only lists the Spicer in 3.07 and 3.92, again, depending on option. Both were factory literature.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | Is the Spicer rear different than the Dana 45? When did Dana and Spicer merge? (just curious) I believe the 3.07 is a Spicer rear end. These gears will not work in a Spicer. | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 |
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | Thanks, Dave... so, is the spice rear end different than the Dana 45? (45 is what was stock in my 59 Suburban) | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Dana and Spicer are two names for the same company. The Dana type 45 is a real oddball- - - -very limited production and repair parts are unobtanium. It's possible to use a Type 44 ring & pinion gear if the rest of the parts are good, but things like axle shafts, side gears, etc. are different (heavier) than the type 44 which has been used in dozens of applications- - - -GMC, Ford, Dodge, International, Jeep, etc. cars and trucks. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 |
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires. '47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle. '54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed. '55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,363 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,363 | Notice the wikki post doesn't mention the 45!
BC 1960 Chevy C10 driver 261 T5 4.10 dana 44 power loc 1949 GMC 250 project in waiting 1960 C60 pasture art Retired GM dealer tech. 1980 - 2022 | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Yes, it does, but it's a very short reference. My 59 Burb had one, which ate most of the internal parts after the pinion nut came loose. I replaced it with a 3/4 ton Dana 60 unit that one of my fellow racers gave me. It had 3.73 Ford gears, a GMC housing, and a Dodge pinion flange in it by the time it was road-ready. It also had 8-lug rear wheels and a 6-lug 1/2 ton front axle. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 | From Wikipedia.
The Dana 45 was introduced during the 1950s as an upgraded Dana 44 with larger 20 spline axle shafts. Since the Dana 45 is no longer being made you can use the Dana 44 gears in the Dana 45 housing if you use model 53 pinion bearings and lots of shims.
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Spicer 45 in its one Chevrolet application. It was used in '59 for trucks with the Positraction option. The Eaton Positraction for the HO33 came out the next year.
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